From: Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>
To: Svyatoslav Ryhel <clamor95@gmail.com>
Cc: "Mauro Carvalho Chehab" <mchehab@kernel.org>,
"Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
"Conor Dooley" <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
"Hans Verkuil" <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>,
"Hans de Goede" <hansg@kernel.org>,
"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>,
"Dongcheng Yan" <dongcheng.yan@intel.com>,
"André Apitzsch" <git@apitzsch.eu>,
"Sylvain Petinot" <sylvain.petinot@foss.st.com>,
"Benjamin Mugnier" <benjamin.mugnier@foss.st.com>,
"Heimir Thor Sverrisson" <heimir.sverrisson@gmail.com>,
"Jingjing Xiong" <jingjing.xiong@intel.com>,
linux-media@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/2] media: i2c: add Sony IMX111 CMOS camera sensor driver
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2025 18:59:25 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aQD2baCkvRCbZG51@kekkonen.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPVz0n2UzvivdUdX5QapduYZ=+LbZp+LPJnSKJmd3WRe35BwaQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Oct 28, 2025 at 06:55:11PM +0200, Svyatoslav Ryhel wrote:
> вт, 28 жовт. 2025 р. о 18:38 Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com> пише:
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 28, 2025 at 06:34:15PM +0200, Svyatoslav Ryhel wrote:
> > > вт, 28 жовт. 2025 р. о 18:31 Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com> пише:
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Oct 28, 2025 at 06:24:25PM +0200, Sakari Ailus wrote:
> > > > > Hi Svyatoslav,
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Aug 29, 2025 at 09:20:10PM +0300, Svyatoslav Ryhel wrote:
> > > > > > чт, 28 серп. 2025 р. о 19:12 Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com> пише:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Svyatoslaw,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 19, 2025 at 03:04:25PM +0300, Svyatoslav Ryhel wrote:
> > > > > > > > Add driver for Sony IMX111 CMOS sensor found in LG Optimus 4X and Vu
> > > > > > > > smartphones.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for the set.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I wonder how would the sensor work with the CCS driver. The register layout
> > > > > > > appears to be very much aligned with that (I haven't checked whether there
> > > > > > > are MSRs that depend on the mode).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > After deeper testing I have found that imx111 may be nokia,smia
> > > > > > compatible, at least most of general registers and CCS logic is
> > > > > > applicable. Some of registers may cause issues, for example,
> > > > > > "phy_ctrl_capability" = 0, 0x0 and some insane pll ranges. Maybe that
> > > > > > can be addressed with a firmware patch idk. The trickiest part is that
> > > > > > each mode requires non-standard and non-common manufacturer code
> > > > > > (0x3xxx ranges). If you can explain how to address these issues, I
> > > > > > would love to add imx111 and a few other modules into list of CCS
> > > > > > supported devices.
> > > > >
> > > > > On a closer look, only the image size related configuration and a little
> > > > > more appears to be CCS-like. That's not enough to configure the sensor;
> > > > > this is conveyed in the MSR space which indeed makes the sensor difficult
> > > > > to control using the CCS driver, unfortunately.
> > > >
> > > > Ok, the driver appears to be doing quite a bit of register writes outside
> > > > the register lists, which is good, and what's there appears indeed largely
> > > > CCS compliant. The MSRs remain an issue; it'd take quite a bit of reverse
> > > > engineering to figure out what the registers are and how to configure them
> > > > in a generic way. I think that's doable but I'm not sure it is justifiable
> > > > considering the expected effort.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I have deciphered a lot already since downstream provides only
> > > register writing sequences. Everything that left is 0x3xxx which seems
> > > to refer a vendor region and it is not documented anywhere.
> >
> > That's what I'd expect, too, with the possible exception of the datasheet,
> > but even sensor datasheets often omit a lot of information.
> >
>
> There is no commonly available datasheet for this model. From what I
> have seen from similar models, 0x3xxx is vendor region and as you said
> "datasheets often omit a lot of information" which is the case.
>
> > I believe you're already aware of
> > <URL:https://www.mipi.org/specifications/camera-command-set>?
> >
>
> Yes, but since this module is from pre-CCS era or was created right
> before this standard was introduced, the module lacks a quite a bit of
> registers and configurations required by CCS. Keep in mind that sensor
> is used in the phone from 2012.
Ah, I wasn't aware it was that old. ;) Well, there was another driver
merged recently which was for a sensor from 2014.
--
Sakari Ailus
prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-28 16:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-19 12:04 [PATCH v1 0/2] media: i2c: add Sony IMX111 CMOS camera sensor driver Svyatoslav Ryhel
2025-08-19 12:04 ` [PATCH v1 1/2] dt-bindings: media: i2c: document Sony IMX111 CMOS sensor Svyatoslav Ryhel
2025-08-19 20:25 ` Rob Herring
2025-08-20 5:36 ` Svyatoslav Ryhel
2025-08-19 12:04 ` [PATCH v1 2/2] media: i2c: add Sony IMX111 CMOS camera sensor driver Svyatoslav Ryhel
2025-08-21 14:45 ` kernel test robot
2025-08-28 16:12 ` [PATCH v1 0/2] " Sakari Ailus
2025-08-28 17:00 ` Svyatoslav Ryhel
2025-08-29 18:20 ` Svyatoslav Ryhel
2025-10-28 16:24 ` Sakari Ailus
2025-10-28 16:31 ` Sakari Ailus
2025-10-28 16:34 ` Svyatoslav Ryhel
2025-10-28 16:38 ` Sakari Ailus
2025-10-28 16:55 ` Svyatoslav Ryhel
2025-10-28 16:59 ` Sakari Ailus [this message]
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