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From: Janani Sunil <jan.sun97@gmail.com>
To: "Nuno Sá" <noname.nuno@gmail.com>, "Jonathan Cameron" <jic23@kernel.org>
Cc: "Conor Dooley" <conor@kernel.org>,
	"Rodrigo Alencar" <455.rodrigo.alencar@gmail.com>,
	"Janani Sunil" <janani.sunil@analog.com>,
	"Lars-Peter Clausen" <lars@metafoo.de>,
	"Michael Hennerich" <Michael.Hennerich@analog.com>,
	"David Lechner" <dlechner@baylibre.com>,
	"Nuno Sá" <nuno.sa@analog.com>,
	"Andy Shevchenko" <andy@kernel.org>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Conor Dooley" <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Philipp Zabel" <p.zabel@pengutronix.de>,
	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Shuah Khan" <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-iio@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	"Mark Brown" <broonie@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/2] dt-bindings: iio: dac: Add AD5529R
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2026 13:54:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <caa54d52-72db-4c58-ae3f-1d1343bd7845@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ajkILRPq_g24g4dH@nsa>


On 6/22/26 12:17, Nuno Sá wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 22, 2026 at 10:27:22AM +0100, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
>> On Mon, 22 Jun 2026 10:07:01 +0100
>> Nuno Sá <noname.nuno@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 21, 2026 at 07:35:42PM +0100, Conor Dooley wrote:
>>>> On Sun, Jun 21, 2026 at 03:33:40PM +0100, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 19 Jun 2026 16:54:11 +0100
>>>>> Nuno Sá <noname.nuno@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>    
>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 19, 2026 at 03:12:07PM +0100, Conor Dooley wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 19, 2026 at 02:01:08PM +0100, Nuno Sá wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 19, 2026 at 12:40:54PM +0100, Conor Dooley wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 19, 2026 at 12:36:55PM +0100, Conor Dooley wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 19, 2026 at 12:33:11PM +0200, Janani Sunil wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/14/26 21:44, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 9 Jun 2026 16:47:23 +0200
>>>>>>>>>>>> Janani Sunil <jan.sun97@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/26/26 15:11, Rodrigo Alencar wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 26/05/19 05:42PM, Janani Sunil wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Devicetree bindings for AD5529R 16 channel 12/16 bit high voltage,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> buffered voltage output digital-to-analog converter (DAC) with an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> integrated precision reference.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Probably others may comment on that, but...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This parent node may support device addressing for multi-device support through
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those ID pins. I suppose that each device may have its own power supplies or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other resources like the toggle pins or reset and enable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That way I suppose that an example would look like...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +patternProperties:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +  "^channel@([0-9]|1[0-5])$":
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +    type: object
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +    description: Child nodes for individual channel configuration
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +    properties:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +      reg:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +        description: Channel number.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +        minimum: 0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +        maximum: 15
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +      adi,output-range-microvolt:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +        description: |
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +          Output voltage range for this channel as [min, max] in microvolts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +          If not specified, defaults to 0V to 5V range.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +        oneOf:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +          - items:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +              - const: 0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +              - enum: [5000000, 10000000, 20000000, 40000000]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +          - items:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +              - const: -5000000
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +              - const: 5000000
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +          - items:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +              - const: -10000000
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +              - const: 10000000
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +          - items:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +              - const: -15000000
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +              - const: 15000000
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +          - items:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +              - const: -20000000
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +              - const: 20000000
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +    required:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +      - reg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +    additionalProperties: false
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +required:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +  - compatible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +  - reg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +  - vdd-supply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +  - avdd-supply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +  - hvdd-supply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +dependencies:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +  spi-cpha: [ spi-cpol ]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +  spi-cpol: [ spi-cpha ]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +allOf:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +  - $ref: /schemas/spi/spi-peripheral-props.yaml#
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +unevaluatedProperties: false
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +examples:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +  - |
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +    #include <dt-bindings/gpio/gpio.h>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +    spi {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +        #address-cells = <1>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +        #size-cells = <0>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +        dac@0 {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +            compatible = "adi,ad5529r-16";
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +            reg = <0>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +            spi-max-frequency = <25000000>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +            vdd-supply = <&vdd_regulator>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +            avdd-supply = <&avdd_regulator>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +            hvdd-supply = <&hvdd_regulator>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +            hvss-supply = <&hvss_regulator>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +            reset-gpios = <&gpio0 87 GPIO_ACTIVE_LOW>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +            #address-cells = <1>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +            #size-cells = <0>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +            channel@0 {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +                reg = <0>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +                adi,output-range-microvolt = <0 5000000>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +            };
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +            channel@1 {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +                reg = <1>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +                adi,output-range-microvolt = <(-10000000) 10000000>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +            };
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +            channel@2 {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +                reg = <2>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +                adi,output-range-microvolt = <0 40000000>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +            };
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +        };
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +    };
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 	spi {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 		#address-cells = <1>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 		#size-cells = <0>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 		multi-dac@0 {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 			compatible = "adi,ad5529r-16";
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 			reg = <0>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 			spi-max-frequency = <25000000>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 			#address-cells = <1>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 			#size-cells = <0>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 			dac@0 {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 				reg = <0>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 				vdd-supply = <&vdd_regulator>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 				avdd-supply = <&avdd_regulator>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 				hvdd-supply = <&hvdd_regulator>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 				hvss-supply = <&hvss_regulator>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 				reset-gpios = <&gpio0 87 GPIO_ACTIVE_LOW>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 				#address-cells = <1>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 				#size-cells = <0>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 				channel@0 {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 					reg = <0>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 					adi,output-range-microvolt = <0 5000000>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 				};
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 				channel@1 {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 					reg = <1>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 					adi,output-range-microvolt = <(-10000000) 10000000>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 				};
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 				channel@2 {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 					reg = <2>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 					adi,output-range-microvolt = <0 40000000>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 				};
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 			}
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 			dac@1 {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 				reg = <1>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 				vdd-supply = <&vdd_regulator>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 				avdd-supply = <&avdd_regulator>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 				hvdd-supply = <&hvdd_regulator>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 				hvss-supply = <&hvss_regulator>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 				reset-gpios = <&gpio0 88 GPIO_ACTIVE_LOW>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 				#address-cells = <1>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 				#size-cells = <0>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 				channel@0 {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 					reg = <0>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 					adi,output-range-microvolt = <0 5000000>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 				};
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 				channel@1 {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 					reg = <1>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 					adi,output-range-microvolt = <(-10000000) 10000000>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 				};
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 			}
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 		};
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 	};
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then you might need something like:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 	patternProperties:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 		"^dac@[0-3]$":
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and put most of the things under this node pattern.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So the main driver that you're putting together might need to handle up to four instances.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Even if your current driver cannot handle this, the dt-bindings might need cover that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Need to double check if each dac node needs a separate compatible, so you would maybe populate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a platform data to be shared with the child nodes, which would be a separate driver.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (not sure if it would make sense to mix and match ad5529r-16 and ad5529r-12).
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Rodrigo,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for looking at this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> For now, I would prefer to keep the binding scoped to a single AD5529R device instance. The current
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hardware/use case we have only needs one device node and the driver is written around that model as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> While the device addressing pins could allow multi-device topology, we do not have an actual platform using
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that configuration at the moment, so I would prefer not to introduce an extra parent/child binding structure
>>>>>>>>>>>>> speculatively without a validating use case.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting feature - kind of similar to address control on a typical i2c bus device, or
>>>>>>>>>>>> looking at it another way a kind of distributed SPI mux.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Challenge of a binding is we need to anticipate the future.  So I think we do need something
>>>>>>>>>>>> like Rodrigo is suggesting even if we only (for now) support a single instance in the driver.
>>>>>>>>>>>> That would leave the path open to supporting the addressing at a later date.
>>>>>>>>>>>> An alternative might be to look at it like a chained device setup. In those we pretend there
>>>>>>>>>>>> is just one device with a lot of channels etc.  The snag is that here things are more loosely
>>>>>>>>>>>> coupled whereas for those devices it tends to be you have to read / write the same register
>>>>>>>>>>>> in all devices in the chain as one big SPI message.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> +CC Mark Brown as he may know of some precedence for this feature. For his reference..
>>>>>>>>>>>> - Each of these device has 2 ID pins.  The SPI transfers have to contain the 2 bit
>>>>>>>>>>>> value that matches that or they are ignored.  Thus a single bus + 1 chip select can
>>>>>>>>>>>> be used to talk to 4 devices.  Question is what that looks like in device tree + I guess
>>>>>>>>>>>> longer term how to support it cleanly in SPI.
>>>>>>>>>> I'd swear I have seen this before, from some Microchip devices. Let me
>>>>>>>>>> see if I can find what I am thinking of...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> microchip,mcp3911 and microchip,mcp3564 both seem to do this with
>>>>>>>>> slightly different properties.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    microchip,device-addr:
>>>>>>>>>      description: Device address when multiple MCP3911 chips are present on the same SPI bus.
>>>>>>>>>      $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/uint32
>>>>>>>>>      enum: [0, 1, 2, 3]
>>>>>>>>>      default: 0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    microchip,hw-device-address:
>>>>>>>>>      $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/uint32
>>>>>>>>>      minimum: 0
>>>>>>>>>      maximum: 3
>>>>>>>>>      description:
>>>>>>>>>        The address is set on a per-device basis by fuses in the factory,
>>>>>>>>>        configured on request. If not requested, the fuses are set for 0x1.
>>>>>>>>>        The device address is part of the device markings to avoid
>>>>>>>>>        potential confusion. This address is coded on two bits, so four possible
>>>>>>>>>        addresses are available when multiple devices are present on the same
>>>>>>>>>        SPI bus with only one Chip Select line for all devices.
>>>>>>>>>        Each device communication starts by a CS falling edge, followed by the
>>>>>>>>>        clocking of the device address (BITS[7:6] - top two bits of COMMAND BYTE
>>>>>>>>>        which is first one on the wire).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This sounds exactly like the sort of feature that you're dealing with
>>>>>>>>> here?
>>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>> The core idea yes but for this chip, things are a bit more annoying (but
>>>>>>>> Janani can correct me if I'm wrong). Here, each device can, in theory,
>>>>>>>> have it's own supplies, pins and at the very least, channels with maybe
>>>>>>>> different scales. That is why Janani is proposing dac nodes. Given I
>>>>>>>> honestly don't like much of that "adi,ad5529r-bus" compatible I wondered
>>>>>>>> about solving this at the spi level.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ah and to make it more annoying, we can also mix 12 and 16 bits variants
>>>>>>>> together in the same bus.
>>>>>>> I'm definitely missing something, because that property for the
>>>>>>> microchip devices is not impacted what else is on the bus. AFAICT, you
>>>>>>> could have an mcp3911 and an mcp3564 on the same bus even though both
>>>>>>> are completely different devices with different drivers. They have
>>>>>>> individual device nodes and their own supplies etc etc. These aren't
>>>>>>> per-channel properties on an adc or dac, they're per child device on a
>>>>>>> spi bus.
>>>>>> Maybe I'm the one missing something :). IIRC, spi would not allow two
>>>>>> devices on the same CS right? Because for this chip we would need
>>>>>> something like:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> spi {
>>>>>> 	dac@0 {
>>>>>> 		reg = <0>;
>>>>>> 		adi,pin-id = <0>;
>>>>>> 	};
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 	dac@1 {
>>>>>> 		reg = <0>; // which seems already problematic?
>>>>>> 		adi,pin-id <1>;
>>>>>> 	};
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 	...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 	//up to 4
>>>>>> };
>>>>> Yeah. It's not clear to me how that works for the microchip devices
>>>>> (I suspect it doesn't!)
>>>>>
>>>>> Just thinking as I type, but could we do something a bit nasty with
>>>>> a gpio mux that doesn't actually switch but represents the GPIO being
>>>>> shared?  Given this is all tied to the spi bus that should all happen
>>>>> under serializing locks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Agreed though that this would be nicer as an SPI thing that let
>>>>> us specify that a single CS is share by multiple devices and their
>>>>> is some other signal acting to select which one we are talking to.
>>>> Whether it works or not, I think it is the more correct approach. Messing
>>>> with gpio muxes seems completely wrong, given the chip select may not be
>>>> a gpio at all.
>>>>
>>>> Why do you think the microchip devices won't work? Does the spi core
>>>> reject multiple devices with the same chip select being registered or
>>>> something like that?
>>> Not sure how things work atm. But I'm fairly sure it used to be like
>>> that. SPI would reject devices on the same controller and CS. Now that
>>> we support more than one CS per controller, not sure how things work.
>> We always supported more than one per CS per controller. I guess you mean
>> per device.
> Obviously :)
>>> Janani, maybe you can give it a try?
>> I think we'd need to get it to work with shared gpio proxy which maybe
>> will just get set up under the hood.  This used to be opt in, but seems
>> that changed fairly recently so maybe some of us are working with out
>> of date knowledge!  I haven't played with it yet, so might not be
>> that simple.
>>
> What I meant for Janani was basically testing two devices on the same CS
> as in my pseudo DT. For the GPIO, you mean having a way to select
> between devices on the same CS?
>
> For these devices the pin id numbers get's setted up as part of the spi message
> so my assumption is that all of them will receive the message but only one acks it.
>
> - Nuno Sá

Hi Everyone,

I tested the case where there are two devices on the same CS. The SPI core does reject it at spi_dev_check_cs():
https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/drivers/spi/spi.c#L631

-Janani Sunil

>
>> Jonathan
>>
>>> - Nuno Sá
>>>

  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-22 11:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-19 15:42 [PATCH v3 0/2] iio: dac: Add support for AD5529R DAC Janani Sunil
2026-05-19 15:42 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] dt-bindings: iio: dac: Add AD5529R Janani Sunil
2026-05-19 15:55   ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-22 17:02   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-05-25 16:30     ` Conor Dooley
2026-05-26 12:35       ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-05-26 13:11   ` Rodrigo Alencar
2026-06-09 14:47     ` Janani Sunil
2026-06-14 19:44       ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-06-19 10:33         ` Janani Sunil
2026-06-19 11:31           ` Nuno Sá
2026-06-19 11:36           ` Conor Dooley
2026-06-19 11:40             ` Conor Dooley
2026-06-19 13:01               ` Nuno Sá
2026-06-19 14:12                 ` Conor Dooley
2026-06-19 15:54                   ` Nuno Sá
2026-06-21 14:33                     ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-06-21 18:35                       ` Conor Dooley
2026-06-22  9:07                         ` Nuno Sá
2026-06-22  9:27                           ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-06-22 10:17                             ` Nuno Sá
2026-06-22 11:54                               ` Janani Sunil [this message]
2026-06-22 12:14                                 ` Conor Dooley
2026-06-22 12:39                                   ` Janani Sunil
2026-06-22 12:50                                     ` Conor Dooley
2026-06-22  9:24                       ` Rodrigo Alencar
2026-06-22 10:29                         ` Nuno Sá
2026-06-22 11:51                           ` Rodrigo Alencar
2026-06-22 12:20                             ` Nuno Sá
2026-05-19 15:42 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] iio: dac: Add AD5529R DAC driver support Janani Sunil
2026-05-19 16:22   ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-22 17:24   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-06-22  9:12   ` Philipp Zabel
2026-06-22  9:31     ` Jonathan Cameron

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