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From: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: "Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>,
	"Zefan Li" <lizefan.x@bytedance.com>,
	"Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Shuah Khan" <shuah@kernel.org>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Roman Gushchin" <guro@fb.com>, "Phil Auld" <pauld@redhat.com>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Juri Lelli" <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	"Frederic Weisbecker" <frederic@kernel.org>,
	"Marcelo Tosatti" <mtosatti@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 5/6] cgroup/cpuset: Update description of cpuset.cpus.partition in cgroup-v2.rst
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2021 09:26:43 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0bdfb7f2-61ee-7b2a-fdb2-3c41f6d6ade0@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2347fe66-dc68-6d58-e63b-7ed2b8077b48@redhat.com>

On 11/30/21 22:56, Waiman Long wrote:
> On 11/30/21 12:11, Tejun Heo wrote:
>
>
>>>      Once becoming a partition root, the following two rules restrict
>>>      what changes can be made to "cpuset.cpus".
>>>
>>>      1) The value must be exclusive.
>>>      2) If child cpusets exist, the value must be a superset of what
>>>         are defined in the child cpusets.
>>>
>>>      The second rule applies even for "member". Other changes to
>>>      "cpuset.cpus" that do not violate the above rules are always
>>>      allowed.
>> While it isn't necessarily tied to this series, it's a big no-no to 
>> restrict
>> what a parent can do depending on what its descendants are doing. A 
>> cgroup
>> higher up in the hierarchy should be able to change configuration 
>> however it
>> sees fit as deligation breaks down otherwise.
>>
>> Maybe you can argue that cpuset is special and shouldn't be subject 
>> to such
>> convention but I can't see strong enough justifications especially given
>> that most of these restrictions can be broken by hotplug operations 
>> anyway
>> and thus need code to handle those situations.
>
> These are all pre-existing restrictions before the introduction of 
> partition. These are checks done in validate_change(). I am just 
> saying out loud the existing behavior. If you think that needs to be 
> changed, I am fine with that. However, it will be a separate patch as 
> it is not a behavior that is introduced by this series.

Of the 2 restrictions listed above, the exclusivity rule is due to the 
use of CS_CPU_EXCLUSIVE flag. I think it is reasonable as it affects 
only siblings, not the parent.

The second restriction was found during my testing. It is caused by the 
following code in validate_change():

         /* Each of our child cpusets must be a subset of us */
         ret = -EBUSY;
         cpuset_for_each_child(c, css, cur)
                 if (!is_cpuset_subset(c, trial))
                         goto out;

It seems that this code was there since v2.6.12 (the beginning of the 
git era). Later in function, we have

         /* On legacy hierarchy, we must be a subset of our parent 
cpuset. */
         ret = -EACCES;
         if (!is_in_v2_mode() && !is_cpuset_subset(trial, par))
                 goto out;

This is actually a duplicate in the case of legacy hierarchy.

I can add a patch to take out the first code block above which I think 
is where most of your objections are. Then I can remove the 2nd 
restriction in my documentation. I would like to emphasize that this is 
a pre-existing behavior which I just happen to document.

Cheers,
Longman


  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-12-01 14:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-18 14:36 [PATCH v8 0/6] cgroup/cpuset: Add new cpuset partition type & empty effecitve cpus Waiman Long
2021-10-18 14:36 ` [PATCH v8 1/6] cgroup/cpuset: Allow no-task partition to have empty cpuset.cpus.effective Waiman Long
2021-10-18 14:36 ` [PATCH v8 2/6] cgroup/cpuset: Refining features and constraints of a partition Waiman Long
2021-10-18 14:36 ` [PATCH v8 3/6] cgroup/cpuset: Add a new isolated cpus.partition type Waiman Long
2021-10-18 14:36 ` [PATCH v8 4/6] cgroup/cpuset: Show invalid partition reason string Waiman Long
2021-10-18 14:36 ` [PATCH v8 5/6] cgroup/cpuset: Update description of cpuset.cpus.partition in cgroup-v2.rst Waiman Long
2021-11-15 19:31   ` Michal Koutný
2021-11-15 20:11     ` Tejun Heo
2021-11-15 21:27       ` Waiman Long
2021-11-15 21:10     ` Waiman Long
2021-11-16 17:54       ` Michal Koutný
2021-11-30 15:35         ` Waiman Long
2021-11-30 17:11           ` Tejun Heo
2021-12-01  3:56             ` Waiman Long
2021-12-01 14:13               ` Michal Koutný
2021-12-01 14:56                 ` Waiman Long
2021-12-01 16:39                   ` Tejun Heo
2021-12-01 17:49                     ` Waiman Long
2021-12-01 14:26               ` Waiman Long [this message]
2021-12-01 16:46               ` Tejun Heo
2021-12-01 18:05                 ` Waiman Long
2021-12-02  1:28                   ` Waiman Long
2021-12-03 18:25                     ` Michal Koutný
2021-12-03 19:27                       ` Waiman Long
2021-10-18 14:36 ` [PATCH v8 6/6] kselftest/cgroup: Add cpuset v2 partition root state test Waiman Long
2021-10-27 23:05 ` [PATCH v8 0/6] cgroup/cpuset: Add new cpuset partition type & empty effecitve cpus Waiman Long
2021-11-10 11:13 ` Felix Moessbauer
2021-11-10 13:21   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2021-11-10 13:56   ` Michal Koutný
2021-11-10 15:21     ` Moessbauer, Felix
2021-11-10 16:10       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2021-11-10 16:14         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2021-11-10 16:15         ` Jan Kiszka
2021-11-10 17:29           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2021-11-10 18:30             ` Waiman Long
2021-11-10 17:52           ` Michal Koutný
2021-11-10 18:04             ` Jan Kiszka
2021-11-10 18:15       ` Michal Koutný
2021-11-10 15:20   ` Waiman Long

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