Re: Add a few more FAQs to the [kernel.org] releases page

Re: Add a few more FAQs to the [kernel.org] releases page

[Thorsten Leemhuis]

Hi Konstantin! I noticed commit 8d6ee9149676 ("Add a few more FAQs to
the releases page") to websites.git, which holds the source for the
pages published on kernel.org
(https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/docs/kernel/website.git/commit/?id=8d6ee91496762c3e4955756a28fe92763d81d4dc
).

Nice additions, thx for doing this. Two quick notes:

* you added two sections that use the term "LTS", which is not explained
on that page and wasn't used on it earlier. I wonder if it might be
better to use "Longterm series" or something like that instead, as that
it the term used on the page (and the official one afaics).

This was also added:

> Does the odd-even number still mean anything?
> 
> Not since 2.5 days.

I guess a lot of users won't known how long ago that was, so how about
using an answer like this instead:

"Not since December 2003, when Linux 2.6 got released."

Ciao, Thorsten

Re: Add a few more FAQs to the [kernel.org] releases page

[Konstantin Ryabitsev]

On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 07:32:46AM +0100, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> * you added two sections that use the term "LTS", which is not explained
> on that page and wasn't used on it earlier. I wonder if it might be
> better to use "Longterm series" or something like that instead, as that
> it the term used on the page (and the official one afaics).

Thanks for the feedback, I switched to using "longterm" uniformly on that
page.

> This was also added:
> 
> > Does the odd-even number still mean anything?
> > 
> > Not since 2.5 days.
> 
> I guess a lot of users won't known how long ago that was, so how about
> using an answer like this instead:
> 
> "Not since December 2003, when Linux 2.6 got released."

I've expanded a bit more on that topic, just to avoid confusion.

Best regards,
-K

Re: Add a few more FAQs to the [kernel.org] releases page

[Thorsten Leemhuis]

On 11.01.22 15:50, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 07:32:46AM +0100, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
>> * you added two sections that use the term "LTS", which is not explained
>> on that page and wasn't used on it earlier. I wonder if it might be
>> better to use "Longterm series" or something like that instead, as that
>> it the term used on the page (and the official one afaics).
> Thanks for the feedback, I switched to using "longterm" uniformly on that
> page.

Ahh, nice, thx.

>> This was also added:
>>
>>> Does the odd-even number still mean anything?
>>>
>>> Not since 2.5 days.
>>
>> I guess a lot of users won't known how long ago that was, so how about
>> using an answer like this instead:
>>
>> "Not since December 2003, when Linux 2.6 got released."
> 
> I've expanded a bit more on that topic, just to avoid confusion.

Great.

BTW, also a big "thank you" from my side for linking "reporting issues".

I looked a little more at the two pages you changed. Most of what
follows is nitpicking, feel free to ignore it. Quotes from here on are
from the linked pages, not from the mail I'm replying to:


# https://www.kernel.org/category/releases.html

> What is the next longterm release going to be?
>
> Longterm kernels are picked based on various factors -- major new
> features, popular commercial distribution needs, device manufacturer
> demand, maintainer workload and availability, etc. You can roughly
> estimate when the new longterm version will become available based on
> how much time has elapsed since the last longterm version was
> chosen.

This is not true anymore afaics (or is it vague on purpose?). Greg (now
CCed) since a few years always makes the last mainline release of a year
the next longterm kernel. He said that a few times, for example here:
https://twitter.com/kernellogger/status/1321081399730970626

So something like this maybe?
"""
What is the next longterm release going to be?

The last Linux mainline version released in a year becomes a longterm
kernel.
"""

# https://www.kernel.org/category/faq.html

> Why is an LTS kernel marked as "stable" on the front page?
>  
> Long-term support ("LTS") kernels announced on the Releases page […]

Maybe get rid of the LTS here, too?

"""
Why is a longterm kernel described as "stable" on the front page?

Longterm kernels announced on the Releases page […]
"""

FWIW, in reporting issues I did it like this: "Longterm kernels
(sometimes called 'LTS kernels') are […]"

> How do I report a problem with the kernel?

I'd sort the list of distribution bug trackers alphabetically to avoid
people thinking things like "why is x listed earlier than my favourite
distro, which is way better".

Ohh, and I guess you make some people happy if you do
s/OpenSUSE/openSUSE/ :-D

Ciao, Thorsten