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From: Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>
To: Jorge Marques <gastmaier@gmail.com>
Cc: David Lechner <dlechner@baylibre.com>,
	Jorge Marques <jorge.marques@analog.com>,
	Lars-Peter Clausen <lars@metafoo.de>,
	Michael Hennerich <Michael.Hennerich@analog.com>,
	Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	linux-iio@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] docs: iio: new docs for ad4052 driver
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2025 19:54:16 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250310195416.6d8c64f2@jic23-huawei> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e3p2r2fet2spkrxv7x76gunlivrp3vng22wktz4fkww5nkckt7@jpgne4uerr3c>

On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 21:49:24 +0100
Jorge Marques <gastmaier@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > +.. list-table:: Driver attributes
> > > +   :header-rows: 1
> > > +
> > > +   * - Attribute
> > > +     - Description
> > > +   * - ``in_voltage0_raw``
> > > +     - Raw ADC voltage value
> > > +   * - ``in_voltage0_oversampling_ratio``
> > > +     - Enable the device's burst averaging mode to over sample using
> > > +       the internal sample rate.
> > > +   * - ``in_voltage0_oversampling_ratio_available``
> > > +     - List of available oversampling values. Value 0 disable the burst
> > > +       averaging mode.
> > > +   * - ``sample_rate``
> > > +     - Device internal sample rate used in the burst averaging mode.
> > > +   * - ``sample_rate_available``
> > > +     - List of available sample rates.  
> > 
> > Why not using the standard sampling_frequency[_available] attributes?  
> Because sampling_frequency is the sampling frequency for the pwm trigger
> during buffer readings.
> sample_rate is the internal device clock used during monitor and burst
> averaging modes.

For an ABI that is very vague and the two use cases seem to be logically
quite different.

Seems that for each trigger we have an oversampling ratio controlled number
of samples at this rate. It is unusual to be able to control oversampling
rate separately from the trigger clock, hence the lack of ABI.  If
we add something new for this it should something relating to oversampling.
oversampling_frequency perhaps.

For monitor mode, it is tied to the sampling frequency for most devices.
But there are exceptions.  E.g. the max1363. Trick is to make it an event
ABI property and hence under events/ rather than in the root directory.

In this case you'll have to store two values and write the appropriate
one into the register to suit a given operating mode.


> 
> > > +
> > > +Threshold events
> > > +================
> > > +
> > > +The ADC supports a monitoring mode to raise threshold events.
> > > +The driver supports a single interrupt for both rising and falling
> > > +readings.
> > > +
> > > +During monitor mode, the device is busy since other transactions
> > > +require to put the device in configuration mode first.  
> > 
> > This isn't so clear to me. Is this saying that events do not work
> > while doing a buffered read? Do you need to do need to read the
> > in_voltage0_raw input to trigger an event?
> >   
> No, the device monitor mode and trigger mode autonomously samples using the
> internal clock set with the sample rate property.
> I rephrased that to:
> 
>  The feature is enabled/disabled by setting ``thresh_either_en``.
>  During monitor mode, the device continuously operate in autonomous mode until
>  put back in configuration mode, due to this, the device returns busy until the
>  feature is disabled.
> 
> The reasoning is that during configuration mode no ADC
> conversion is done, including if the previous mode was autonomous.
> If instead of return busy the driver hided this and resumed monitor mode
> after the access, a hidden (to the user) monitoring down-time would and
> thresholds crossings could be lost, undermining the feature.

hmm. This is a trade off between usability and precise matching of expectations.
From your description does monitor mode only trigger if the threshold is
crossed or is it a level comparison?  If it's level I'd consider the
option of brief disabling.  Unlikely to be a problem interrupting things
in vast majority of usecases. Documentation can then express this issue.

> 
> > > +SPI offload support
> > > +===================
> > > +
> > > +To be able to achieve the maximum sample rate, the driver can be used with the
> > > +`AXI SPI Engine`_ to provide SPI offload support.
> > > +
> > > +.. _AXI SPI Engine: http://analogdevicesinc.github.io/hdl/projects/ad4052_ardz/index.html  
> > 
> > This diagram show a PWM connected to the CNV pin on the ADC, but I
> > didn't see a pwms property in the DT bindings to describe this.
> >   
> It is not clear to me where the pwm property should be in the DT
> bindings, since the PWM node now belongs to the offload-capable SPI controller.
> 
> > I didn't have time to read the full datasheet or look at the driver
> > code yet, but can do that next week.  
> Ok, thank you for the review
> 
> Jorge


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-03-10 19:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-06 14:03 [PATCH 0/4] Add support for AD4052 device family Jorge Marques
2025-03-06 14:03 ` [PATCH 1/4] iio: code: mark iio_dev as const in iio_buffer_enabled Jorge Marques
2025-03-06 14:03 ` [PATCH 2/4] dt-bindings: iio: adc: Add adi,ad4052 Jorge Marques
2025-03-06 16:31   ` Conor Dooley
2025-03-08 15:05     ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-03-09 19:43     ` Jorge Marques
2025-03-10 19:35       ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-03-07 10:51   ` David Lechner
2025-03-09 20:11     ` Jorge Marques
2025-03-08 15:10   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-03-09 20:25     ` Jorge Marques
2025-03-06 14:03 ` [PATCH 3/4] docs: iio: new docs for ad4052 driver Jorge Marques
2025-03-07 10:52   ` David Lechner
2025-03-09 20:49     ` Jorge Marques
2025-03-10 14:31       ` David Lechner
2025-03-10 19:56         ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-03-14 17:34           ` Jorge Marques
2025-03-15 18:24             ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-03-10 19:54       ` Jonathan Cameron [this message]
2025-03-14 18:13         ` Jorge Marques
2025-03-14 18:56           ` David Lechner
2025-03-19 16:59             ` Jorge Marques
2025-03-06 14:03 ` [PATCH 4/4] iio: adc: add support for ad4052 Jorge Marques
2025-03-07 12:06   ` kernel test robot
2025-03-07 12:39   ` kernel test robot
2025-03-07 14:22   ` kernel test robot
2025-03-08 16:02   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-03-10 11:36     ` Jorge Marques
2025-03-08 16:12   ` Christophe JAILLET
2025-03-10 11:37     ` Jorge Marques

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