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From: David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>
To: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: Manuel Ebner <manuelebner@mailbox.org>,
	andy.shevchenko@gmail.com, apw@canonical.com, corbet@lwn.net,
	dwaipayanray1@gmail.com, joe@perches.com, kees@kernel.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	lukas.bulwahn@gmail.com, skhan@linuxfoundation.org,
	workflows@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] [PATCH 1/2] Doc: deprecated.rst: add strlcat()
Date: Mon, 11 May 2026 14:26:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260511142649.463c3ea5@pumpkin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMuHMdWchXXcMyShiMZrhFTrHoB-TcKQEBcRoCTJFpwJsxxdhg@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, 11 May 2026 13:40:55 +0200
Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org> wrote:

> Hi Manuel,
> 
> On Sun, 10 May 2026 at 18:52, Manuel Ebner <manuelebner@mailbox.org> wrote:
> > add strlcat and alternatives  
> 
> Thanks for your patch!
> 
> > --- a/Documentation/process/deprecated.rst
> > +++ b/Documentation/process/deprecated.rst
> > @@ -162,6 +162,12 @@ if a source string is not NUL-terminated. The safe replacement is strscpy(),
> >  though care must be given to any cases where the return value of strlcpy()
> >  is used, since strscpy() will return negative errno values when it truncates.
> >
> > +strlcat()
> > +---------
> > +strlcat() must re-scan the destination string from the beginning on each
> > +call (O(n^2) behavior). Alternatives are seq_buf_puts(), seq_buf_printf(),
> > +snprintf() and scnprintf()  
> 
> The last two not only require the caller to keep track of the offset
> in the buffer, but also using "%s" when storing passed strings.

Which also means they are significantly slower.
Mind you, some code has:
	strlcat(buf, "\n", SIZE);
	return strlen(buf);
which carefully scans the string twice.
Since the '\0' isn't always needed (eg 'show' functions), this can be:
	len = strlen(buf);
	buf[len] ='\n';
	return len + 1;
Of course, the code could often easily get the length by other means.

-- David

> 
> I hope we won't see mindless conversions lacking the "%s",
> introducing new security issues:
> 
>     -strlcat(buf, s, size);
>     +scnprintf(buf + off, size - off, s);
> 
> > +
> >  %p format specifier
> >  -------------------
> >  Traditionally, using "%p" in format strings would lead to regular address  
> 
> Gr{oetje,eeting}s,
> 
>                         Geert
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-11 13:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-10 16:49 [PATCH 0/2] Doc, scripts: facilitate phaseout of strlcat Manuel Ebner
2026-05-10 16:52 ` [PATCH 1/2] [PATCH 1/2] Doc: deprecated.rst: add strlcat() Manuel Ebner
2026-05-11 11:40   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-05-11 13:26     ` David Laight [this message]
2026-05-11 19:07       ` Kees Cook
2026-05-11 20:34         ` David Laight
2026-05-10 16:54 ` Manuel Ebner
2026-05-10 17:32   ` Randy Dunlap
2026-05-12  8:52   ` Jani Nikula
2026-05-12 10:43     ` Manuel Ebner
2026-05-12 13:57       ` David Laight
2026-05-10 16:56 ` [PATCH 2/2] scripts: checkpatch.pl: add warning for strlcat() Manuel Ebner
2026-05-10 17:31   ` Randy Dunlap
2026-05-11 12:12   ` Jonathan Corbet
2026-05-11 13:27     ` David Laight
2026-05-12  7:36       ` Manuel Ebner

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