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From: Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>
To: Rodrigo Alencar <455.rodrigo.alencar@gmail.com>
Cc: Rodrigo Alencar via B4 Relay
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v4 09/10] Documentation: ABI: testing: add docs for ad9910 sysfs entries
Date: Mon, 18 May 2026 14:45:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260518144537.7c998308@jic23-huawei> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yrabhhhdkzmiuxlqzrrj6a47ftlzwvva7r2korzeszdy4yqrin@xl6obhhnnas4>

On Sun, 17 May 2026 18:30:27 +0100
Rodrigo Alencar <455.rodrigo.alencar@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 26/05/17 03:58PM, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
> > On Fri, 08 May 2026 18:00:25 +0100
> > Rodrigo Alencar via B4 Relay <devnull+rodrigo.alencar.analog.com@kernel.org> wrote:
> >   
> > > From: Rodrigo Alencar <rodrigo.alencar@analog.com>
> > > 
> > > Add custom ABI documentation file for the DDS AD9910 with sysfs entries to
> > > control Parallel Port, Digital Ramp Generator and OSK parameters.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Rodrigo Alencar <rodrigo.alencar@analog.com>  
> > I'm fine with phase and frequency as defined, but for the scaling it made me wonder.
> > For outvoltage0 channels the assumption the value is the peak voltage so if
> > we know what input to be modulated by the ramp generator can we express them
> > in volts (well milivolts) rather than as a scaling multiplier?  
> 
> The DAC output is current-based and differential. Voltage conversion would happen
> outside the device...

Why aren't we representing this as out_altcurrentX-Y_xxxx?


> using a resistor load or an op-amp transimpedance stage,
> and I am no expert on that, but that often requires impedance matching so voltage
> levels may depend on the frequency. Then, I suppose that voltage is not the right
> unit to use.

Understood that it can get complex!
> 
> The scale here controls the amplitude of the varying signal. Assuming the peak voltage
> (amplitude) is constant means we have a constant envelope, but that should not mean
> we can't control it or it should not mean that the hardware can have other ways to
> control it. That said, scale behaves as a "gain multiplier".
Understood. Given it's the envelope then if scale happened to be 1 always it would
be presented as _processed. So this is consistent with other channel types.

> 
> > 
> > That seems to me like it fits better with the overall ABI.
> >   
> > > +What:		/sys/bus/iio/devices/iio:deviceX/out_altvoltageY_scale_offset
> > > +KernelVersion:
> > > +Contact:	linux-iio@vger.kernel.org
> > > +Description:
> > > +		For a channel that allows amplitude control through buffers, this
> > > +		represents the value for a base amplitude scale. The actual output
> > > +		amplitude scale is a result with the sum of this value.
> > > +  
> >   
> > > +
> > > +What:		/sys/bus/iio/devices/iio:deviceX/out_altvoltageY_scale_roc  
> > 
> > Silly question perhaps but can work out how this related to millivolts/sec
> > That might make a more intuitive interface than scaling multiplier per sec
> > Perhaps the combination with offset makes this impossible though maybe that
> > could be a expressed as a voltage offset?  Afterall if the amplitude being
> > scaled is 5V then 5 * (offset + scale) = 5 * offset + 5 * scale
> >    
> > > +KernelVersion:
> > > +Contact:	linux-iio@vger.kernel.org
> > > +Description:
> > > +		Amplitude scale rate of change in 1/s for channels that ramp
> > > +		amplitude. This value may be influenced by the channel's
> > > +		sampling_frequency setting.  
> > 
> >   
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-18 13:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-08 17:00 [PATCH RFC v4 00/10] AD9910 Direct Digital Synthesizer Rodrigo Alencar via B4 Relay
2026-05-08 17:00 ` [PATCH RFC v4 01/10] dt-bindings: iio: frequency: add ad9910 Rodrigo Alencar via B4 Relay
2026-05-12 18:31   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-05-13 15:09     ` Rodrigo Alencar
2026-05-16 10:40       ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-05-17 10:12         ` Rodrigo Alencar
2026-05-17 11:28           ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-05-08 17:00 ` [PATCH RFC v4 02/10] iio: core: support 64-bit register through debugfs Rodrigo Alencar via B4 Relay
2026-05-10 10:07   ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-05-11 10:47     ` Rodrigo Alencar
2026-05-08 17:00 ` [PATCH RFC v4 03/10] iio: frequency: ad9910: initial driver implementation Rodrigo Alencar via B4 Relay
2026-05-17 14:47   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-05-17 18:07     ` Rodrigo Alencar
2026-05-18 13:42       ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-05-08 17:00 ` [PATCH RFC v4 04/10] iio: frequency: ad9910: add basic parallel port support Rodrigo Alencar via B4 Relay
2026-05-08 17:00 ` [PATCH RFC v4 05/10] iio: frequency: ad9910: add digital ramp generator support Rodrigo Alencar via B4 Relay
2026-05-17 15:01   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-05-08 17:00 ` [PATCH RFC v4 06/10] iio: frequency: ad9910: add RAM mode support Rodrigo Alencar via B4 Relay
2026-05-17 15:06   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-05-08 17:00 ` [PATCH RFC v4 07/10] iio: frequency: ad9910: add output shift keying support Rodrigo Alencar via B4 Relay
2026-05-17 15:08   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-05-08 17:00 ` [PATCH RFC v4 08/10] iio: frequency: ad9910: show channel priority in debugfs Rodrigo Alencar via B4 Relay
2026-05-08 17:00 ` [PATCH RFC v4 09/10] Documentation: ABI: testing: add docs for ad9910 sysfs entries Rodrigo Alencar via B4 Relay
2026-05-17 14:58   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-05-17 15:45     ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-05-17 17:30     ` Rodrigo Alencar
2026-05-18 13:45       ` Jonathan Cameron [this message]
2026-05-18 15:27         ` Rodrigo Alencar
2026-05-20  9:54           ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-05-08 17:00 ` [PATCH RFC v4 10/10] docs: iio: add documentation for ad9910 driver Rodrigo Alencar via B4 Relay
2026-05-09 23:42   ` David Lechner
2026-05-10  9:30     ` Rodrigo Alencar
2026-05-11 14:46       ` David Lechner
2026-05-11 15:02         ` Rodrigo Alencar
2026-05-11 15:23           ` David Lechner
2026-05-11 16:01             ` Rodrigo Alencar
2026-05-15 15:47               ` Rodrigo Alencar
2026-05-17 15:44             ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-05-17 17:54               ` Rodrigo Alencar
2026-05-09 22:31 ` [PATCH RFC v4 00/10] AD9910 Direct Digital Synthesizer David Lechner
2026-05-10  8:50   ` Rodrigo Alencar

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