* [PATCH] Documentation: drm: Add entry for removing spsc_queue to TODO list
@ 2026-05-29 21:52 Philipp Stanner
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From: Philipp Stanner @ 2026-05-29 21:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: avid Airlie, Simona Vetter, Maarten Lankhorst, Maxime Ripard,
Thomas Zimmermann, Jonathan Corbet, Shuah Khan, dakr,
christian.koenig, Tvrtko Ursulin
Cc: dri-devel, linux-doc, linux-kernel, Philipp Stanner
drm_sched contains a lockless queue (spsc_queue) that seems to be
useless and potentially unsound.
Add a TODO list entry for replacing spsc_queue with a locked list.
Signed-off-by: Philipp Stanner <phasta@kernel.org>
---
Documentation/gpu/todo.rst | 41 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 file changed, 41 insertions(+)
diff --git a/Documentation/gpu/todo.rst b/Documentation/gpu/todo.rst
index cdddf8db35f5..87e082b0eb48 100644
--- a/Documentation/gpu/todo.rst
+++ b/Documentation/gpu/todo.rst
@@ -948,6 +948,47 @@ Contact: Philipp Stanner <phasta@kernel.org>
Level: Intermediate
+Replace the lockless queue with a locked list
+---------------------------------------------
+
+drm_sched is the only user in the entire kernel of a special lockless queue, the
+spsc_queue. This queue utilizes:
+
+- preempt_disable()
+- atomic instructions
+- memory barriers
+- ACCESS_ONCE()
+
+whereas a conventional spinlock utilizes:
+
+- preempt_disable()
+- 1 atomic instruction for taking / releasing the lock
+- memory barriers
+
+Moreover, drm_sched_entity_push_job(), the only user of spsc_queue_push(), has
+to take a lock in some situations anyways and calls to it are often serialized
+with a driver lock.
+
+It is, thus, highly questionable whether the lockless queue grants any advantage
+at all. Considering that its internals are not well documented and its correctness
+is not formally proven, it seems desirable to replace the queue with a mere list
+or hlist that is protected by a spinlock.
+
+Tasks:
+
+- Replace the spsc_queue in drm/sched (and those who might access the scheduler's
+ internal queue) with a spinlock + (h)list.
+- Ideally, check with some micro benchmarks and real world tests (preferably
+ with amdgpu) for relevant performance regressions.
+- Remove the spsc_queue from the kernel altogether.
+
+Contact:
+
+- Philipp Stanner <phasta@kernel.org>
+- Christian König <christian.koenig@amd.com>
+
+Level: Beginner
+
Outside DRM
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