* [PATCH] Documentation: index.rst: add entry of other sub-directory
@ 2026-06-03 8:04 Manuel Ebner
2026-06-03 9:33 ` [PATCH] Documentation: real-time/index: add entry Manuel Ebner
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From: Manuel Ebner @ 2026-06-03 8:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior, Clark Williams, Steven Rostedt,
Jonathan Corbet, Shuah Khan,
open list:Real-time Linux (PREEMPT_RT), open list:DOCUMENTATION,
open list
Cc: Manuel Ebner
add reference to scheduler/sched-rt-group.rst
Signed-off-by: Manuel Ebner <manuelebner@mailbox.org>
---
Documentation/core-api/real-time/index.rst | 1 +
1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
diff --git a/Documentation/core-api/real-time/index.rst b/Documentation/core-api/real-time/index.rst
index f08d2395a22c..661b419e7f8f 100644
--- a/Documentation/core-api/real-time/index.rst
+++ b/Documentation/core-api/real-time/index.rst
@@ -15,3 +15,4 @@ the required changes compared to a non-PREEMPT_RT configuration.
differences
hardware
architecture-porting
+ Real-Time group scheduling <../../scheduler/sched-rt-group>
--
2.54.0
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2026-06-03 8:04 [PATCH] Documentation: index.rst: add entry of other sub-directory Manuel Ebner
@ 2026-06-03 9:33 ` Manuel Ebner
2026-06-03 10:20 ` [PATCH] Documentation: index.rst: add entry of other sub-directory Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-06-12 19:30 ` Jonathan Corbet
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From: Manuel Ebner @ 2026-06-03 9:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: manuelebner
Cc: bigeasy, clrkwllms, corbet, linux-doc, linux-kernel,
linux-rt-devel, rostedt, skhan
I figured out the subject and changelog aren't good. It should be:
[PATCH] Documentation: real-time/index: add entry
Add reference to realtime/index.rst pointing to scheduler/sched-rt-group.rst
Signed-off-by: Manuel Ebner <manuelebner@mailbox.org>
---
I'm waiting for feedback before making [v2].
Thanks
Manuel
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* Re: [PATCH] Documentation: index.rst: add entry of other sub-directory
2026-06-03 8:04 [PATCH] Documentation: index.rst: add entry of other sub-directory Manuel Ebner
2026-06-03 9:33 ` [PATCH] Documentation: real-time/index: add entry Manuel Ebner
@ 2026-06-03 10:20 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-06-03 10:55 ` Manuel Ebner
2026-06-12 19:30 ` Jonathan Corbet
2 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior @ 2026-06-03 10:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Manuel Ebner
Cc: Clark Williams, Steven Rostedt, Jonathan Corbet, Shuah Khan,
open list:Real-time Linux (PREEMPT_RT), open list:DOCUMENTATION,
open list
On 2026-06-03 10:04:31 [+0200], Manuel Ebner wrote:
> add reference to scheduler/sched-rt-group.rst
>
> Signed-off-by: Manuel Ebner <manuelebner@mailbox.org>
> ---
> Documentation/core-api/real-time/index.rst | 1 +
> 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
>
> diff --git a/Documentation/core-api/real-time/index.rst b/Documentation/core-api/real-time/index.rst
> index f08d2395a22c..661b419e7f8f 100644
> --- a/Documentation/core-api/real-time/index.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/core-api/real-time/index.rst
> @@ -15,3 +15,4 @@ the required changes compared to a non-PREEMPT_RT configuration.
> differences
> hardware
> architecture-porting
> + Real-Time group scheduling <../../scheduler/sched-rt-group>
Have you been using this and are referencing this because it is useful
or did you just happen to find it?
People have been complaining about this and I *think* it fails to work
in multi-CPU scenarios (it might work if the task is restricted to
single CPU usage). Not entirely certain. But complains, that I am
certain of.
There is replacement underway to utilize SCHED_DL for this as in
"Hierarchical Constant Bandwidth Server (HCBS)"
https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260430213835.62217-1-yurand2000@gmail.com/
Sebastian
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* Re: [PATCH] Documentation: index.rst: add entry of other sub-directory
2026-06-03 10:20 ` [PATCH] Documentation: index.rst: add entry of other sub-directory Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
@ 2026-06-03 10:55 ` Manuel Ebner
2026-06-03 11:06 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Manuel Ebner @ 2026-06-03 10:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior, linux-rt-users
Cc: Clark Williams, Steven Rostedt, Jonathan Corbet, Shuah Khan,
open list:Real-time Linux (PREEMPT_RT), open list:DOCUMENTATION,
open list
On Wed, 2026-06-03 at 12:20 +0200, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> On 2026-06-03 10:04:31 [+0200], Manuel Ebner wrote:
> > add reference to scheduler/sched-rt-group.rst
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Manuel Ebner <manuelebner@mailbox.org>
> > ---
> > Documentation/core-api/real-time/index.rst | 1 +
> > 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
> >
> > diff --git a/Documentation/core-api/real-time/index.rst b/Documentation/core-api/real-
> > time/index.rst
> > index f08d2395a22c..661b419e7f8f 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/core-api/real-time/index.rst
> > +++ b/Documentation/core-api/real-time/index.rst
> > @@ -15,3 +15,4 @@ the required changes compared to a non-PREEMPT_RT configuration.
> > differences
> > hardware
> > architecture-porting
> > + Real-Time group scheduling <../../scheduler/sched-rt-group>
>
> Have you been using this and are referencing this because it is useful
> or did you just happen to find it?
I happened to find it.
> People have been complaining about this
Maybe with the help of them we can figure out what's happening.
adding linux-rt-user@vger.kernel.org
> and I *think* it fails to work
> in multi-CPU scenarios (it might work if the task is restricted to
> single CPU usage). Not entirely certain. But complains, that I am
> certain of.
> There is replacement underway to utilize SCHED_DL for this as in
> "Hierarchical Constant Bandwidth Server (HCBS)"
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260430213835.62217-1-yurand2000@gmail.com/
will look into this.
>
> Sebastian
Thanks for the feedback
Manuel
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* Re: [PATCH] Documentation: index.rst: add entry of other sub-directory
2026-06-03 10:55 ` Manuel Ebner
@ 2026-06-03 11:06 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior @ 2026-06-03 11:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Manuel Ebner
Cc: linux-rt-users, Clark Williams, Steven Rostedt, Jonathan Corbet,
Shuah Khan, open list:Real-time Linux (PREEMPT_RT),
open list:DOCUMENTATION, open list
On 2026-06-03 12:55:57 [+0200], Manuel Ebner wrote:
> > People have been complaining about this
>
> Maybe with the help of them we can figure out what's happening.
> adding linux-rt-user@vger.kernel.org
good luck. What I managed to find out is that those, that did not copy
statements but run into trouble themself, were using in a multi-CPU
scenario. Based on other details I *think* it should not happen single
CPU usage but nobody confirmed.
But this HCBS thingy aims at replacing/ removing it entirely…
Sebastian
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* Re: [PATCH] Documentation: index.rst: add entry of other sub-directory
2026-06-03 8:04 [PATCH] Documentation: index.rst: add entry of other sub-directory Manuel Ebner
2026-06-03 9:33 ` [PATCH] Documentation: real-time/index: add entry Manuel Ebner
2026-06-03 10:20 ` [PATCH] Documentation: index.rst: add entry of other sub-directory Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
@ 2026-06-12 19:30 ` Jonathan Corbet
2026-06-15 8:13 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Jonathan Corbet @ 2026-06-12 19:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Manuel Ebner, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior, Clark Williams,
Steven Rostedt, Shuah Khan,
open list:Real-time Linux (PREEMPT_RT), open list:DOCUMENTATION,
open list
Cc: Manuel Ebner
Manuel Ebner <manuelebner@mailbox.org> writes:
> add reference to scheduler/sched-rt-group.rst
>
> Signed-off-by: Manuel Ebner <manuelebner@mailbox.org>
> ---
> Documentation/core-api/real-time/index.rst | 1 +
> 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
>
> diff --git a/Documentation/core-api/real-time/index.rst b/Documentation/core-api/real-time/index.rst
> index f08d2395a22c..661b419e7f8f 100644
> --- a/Documentation/core-api/real-time/index.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/core-api/real-time/index.rst
> @@ -15,3 +15,4 @@ the required changes compared to a non-PREEMPT_RT configuration.
> differences
> hardware
> architecture-porting
> + Real-Time group scheduling <../../scheduler/sched-rt-group>
This file already appears in the toctree in
Documentation/scheduler/index.rst; adding it elsewhere can create build
problems. If you really want a link here, the way to do it is to add a
cross reference instead.
jon
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* Re: [PATCH] Documentation: index.rst: add entry of other sub-directory
2026-06-12 19:30 ` Jonathan Corbet
@ 2026-06-15 8:13 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior @ 2026-06-15 8:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jonathan Corbet
Cc: Manuel Ebner, Clark Williams, Steven Rostedt, Shuah Khan,
open list:Real-time Linux (PREEMPT_RT), open list:DOCUMENTATION,
open list
On 2026-06-12 13:30:13 [-0600], Jonathan Corbet wrote:
> Manuel Ebner <manuelebner@mailbox.org> writes:
>
> > add reference to scheduler/sched-rt-group.rst
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Manuel Ebner <manuelebner@mailbox.org>
> > ---
> > Documentation/core-api/real-time/index.rst | 1 +
> > 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
> >
> > diff --git a/Documentation/core-api/real-time/index.rst b/Documentation/core-api/real-time/index.rst
> > index f08d2395a22c..661b419e7f8f 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/core-api/real-time/index.rst
> > +++ b/Documentation/core-api/real-time/index.rst
> > @@ -15,3 +15,4 @@ the required changes compared to a non-PREEMPT_RT configuration.
> > differences
> > hardware
> > architecture-porting
> > + Real-Time group scheduling <../../scheduler/sched-rt-group>
>
> This file already appears in the toctree in
> Documentation/scheduler/index.rst; adding it elsewhere can create build
> problems. If you really want a link here, the way to do it is to add a
> cross reference instead.
The long term goal is to remove sched-rt-group and replace it with
something else. Manuel stated that he just found it and was not/ is not
using it. Maybe just drop it entirely.
> jon
Sebastian
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