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From: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
To: LiaoYuanhong-vivo <liaoyuanhong@vivo.com>
Cc: chao@kernel.org, corbet@lwn.net, jaegeuk@kernel.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-fscrypt@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	skhan@linuxfoundation.org, tytso@mit.edu
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/3] f2fs: support encrypted inline data
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2026 16:02:15 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260616230215.GA1873@quark> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260616094612.45505-1-liaoyuanhong@vivo.com>

On Tue, Jun 16, 2026 at 05:46:12PM +0800, LiaoYuanhong-vivo wrote:
> Could you share more about the direction you have in mind for simplifying
> f2fs/ext4 contents encryption around blk-crypto?

Currently ext4 and f2fs each have two implementations of file contents
encryption and decryption:

- One where the en/decryption is done in the filesystem layer

- One where the filesystem attaches a bio_crypt_ctx to the bios and the
  en/decryption is done either in the block layer by blk-crypto-fallback
  or by inline encryption hardware

I'd like to drop the first one, for simplicity and to reduce the burden
on ongoing developments like large folio support.

> For f2fs inline_data, there is still a real space-saving benefit on phones,
> since many encrypted files are smaller than 4K. Is there any acceptable
> future direction to support this kind of inode-resident data with
> blk-crypto or hardware-wrapped keys?

It is incompatible with inline encryption hardware.  A CPU-based
solution like Intel Key Locker or RISC-V High Assurance Cryptography
could provide similar security properties.  But there's nothing for
arm64 yet.  And I should mention that no one has wanted to use Key
Locker anyway because it's really slow.

- Eric

      reply	other threads:[~2026-06-16 23:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-15 12:55 [PATCH v3 0/3] f2fs: support encrypted inline data LiaoYuanhong-vivo
2026-06-15 12:55 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] Documentation: f2fs: document " LiaoYuanhong-vivo
2026-06-15 19:37 ` [PATCH v3 0/3] f2fs: support " Eric Biggers
2026-06-16  9:46   ` LiaoYuanhong-vivo
2026-06-16 23:02     ` Eric Biggers [this message]

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