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From: "Moger, Babu" <bmoger@amd.com>
To: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RESEND PATCH v4 04/15] fs/resctrl: Introduce kernel mode (kmode) data structures
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2026 14:58:57 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5fad6e01-1052-4c1f-82f5-02c650ae1ffe@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b84e5f4a-9743-41d8-b70f-e826d5afe4fe@intel.com>

Hi Reinette,

On 8/10/2026 10:03 PM, Reinette Chatre wrote:
> Hi Babu,
> 
> On 7/7/26 2:50 PM, Babu Moger wrote:
>> Kernel-mode traffic can use a different allocation and monitoring context
>> than the originating user task. On x86, Privilege Level Zero Association
>> (PLZA) enables the kernel to switch to a different CLOSID (and optionally
>> RMID) when entering kernel mode.
>>
>> Architectures need a common way to name kernel-mode policies before resctrl
> 
> Please pick one term and stick with it. While reading through this series I
> have come across "kernel-mode policies", "kernel-mode binding", "kernel-mode
> configuration", and "kernel-mode association". Is the distinction even needed?
> Could all of these just instead be: "kernel mode"?

Sure.

> 
>> can report what is active or what the platform supports.
>>
>> Introduce enum resctrl_kernel_mode:
>>    - INHERIT_CTRL_AND_MON: Kernel work inherits allocation and monitoring
>>      from the user task (current behavior).
> 
> The issue with this "combination" mode becomes obvious in patch 7. I also
> see that sashiko hinted at this issue but I am not able to see from your response
> what the plan is to address this. As highlighted by patch 7 and sashiko the
> "allocation" and "monitoring" features of a system are independent - a system
> need not support/enable both. This should be easy to reproduce by, for example,
> booting a system with needed rdt= options disabling allocation or monitoring
> features.
> 
> I think it will be unexpected to a user on an allocation-only system to
> see interface like:
> 
>   # cat info/kernel_mode
>    [inherit_ctrl_and_mon]
>    global_assign_ctrl_inherit_mon_per_cpu:group=uninitialized
>    global_assign_ctrl_assign_mon_per_cpu:group=uninitialized
> 
> Should it not rather be, for example:
>   # cat info/kernel_mode
>    [inherit_ctrl]
>    global_assign_ctrl_per_cpu:group=uninitialized
> 
> Similarly the user input would not need to provide a monitor group when system
> only supports allocation.

Ok. Yea. We need to separate control and monitor separately.


How about something like this?

  # cat info/kernel_mode
    [ctrl=inherit,mon=inherit]
    ctrl=assign,mon=inherit:group=uninitialized
    ctrl=assign,mon=assign:group=uninitialized
    ctrl=inherit,mon=assign:group=uninitialized

If allocation(ctrl) is only supported.

  # cat info/kernel_mode
    [ctrl=inherit]
    ctrl=assign:group=uninitialized

If monitor (mon) is only supported.

  # cat info/kernel_mode
    [mon=inherit]
    mon=assign:group=uninitialized



> 
>>    - GLOBAL_ASSIGN_CTRL_INHERIT_MON_PER_CPU: Assign allocation for kernel
>>      work; inherit monitoring from the user task.
> 
> I am not able to parse "Assign allocation for kernel work"

Will change it. Explaining in control and monitor groups terms will be 
better.

> 
> 
>>    - GLOBAL_ASSIGN_CTRL_ASSIGN_MON_PER_CPU: Assign a dedicated allocation
>>      and monitoring for kernel work.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Babu Moger <babu.moger@amd.com>
>> ---
> 
> ...
> 
>> diff --git a/include/linux/resctrl.h b/include/linux/resctrl.h
>> index 73ff522448a0..c7abed51cd5f 100644
>> --- a/include/linux/resctrl.h
>> +++ b/include/linux/resctrl.h
>> @@ -703,6 +703,37 @@ int resctrl_arch_io_alloc_enable(struct rdt_resource *r, bool enable);
>>    */
>>   bool resctrl_arch_get_io_alloc_enabled(struct rdt_resource *r);
>>   
>> +/**
>> + * enum resctrl_kernel_mode - Kernel-mode control and monitor association
>> + *			      policy.
>> + *
>> + * @INHERIT_CTRL_AND_MON:
>> + *	Kernel work inherits the allocation and monitoring from the user space
> 
> "inherits the allocation and monitoring" is very vague. I think it will help to
> make things clear if this is described as the control and monitor groups being
> assigned.
> 

Sure.

>> + *	task. On x86 this means that kernel work shares the same CLOSID and
>> + *	RMID as the user space task. This matches today's resctrl behavior.
> 
> "This matches today's resctrl behavior." - This cannot be expected to age well and can
> be dropped.

Will change.

> 
>> + *
>> + * @GLOBAL_ASSIGN_CTRL_INHERIT_MON_PER_CPU:
>> + *	Kernel work uses a globally assigned allocation while monitoring is
>> + *	inherited from the user space task. On x86 this means a CLOSID is
> 
> (same comment as above)

ack.

> 
>> + *	assigned for kernel work and the RMID is inherited from the user space
>> + *	task. Default scope is all online CPUs; a subset may be selected via
>> + *	the resctrl group interface. A CTRL_MON group is bound to this mode.
>> + *
>> + * @GLOBAL_ASSIGN_CTRL_ASSIGN_MON_PER_CPU:
>> + *	Kernel work uses globally assigned allocation and monitoring. On x86
> 
> (same comment as above)

Ack.
> 
>> + *	this means both CLOSID and RMID are assigned for kernel work. Default
>> + *	scope is all online CPUs; a subset may be selected via the resctrl
>> + *	group interface. A CTRL_MON or MON group is bound to this mode.
>> + */
>> +enum resctrl_kernel_mode {
>> +	INHERIT_CTRL_AND_MON,
>> +	GLOBAL_ASSIGN_CTRL_INHERIT_MON_PER_CPU,
>> +	GLOBAL_ASSIGN_CTRL_ASSIGN_MON_PER_CPU,
>> +	RESCTRL_KMODE_LAST = GLOBAL_ASSIGN_CTRL_ASSIGN_MON_PER_CPU,
> 
> Please drop comma on a terminator line.

Sure.

Thanks
Babu

  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-12 19:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-07 21:50 [RESEND PATCH v4 00/15] x86/resctrl: Add kernel-mode (e.g., PLZA) support to the resctrl subsystem Babu Moger
2026-07-07 21:50 ` [RESEND PATCH v4 01/15] x86/resctrl: Support Privilege Level Zero Association (PLZA) Babu Moger
2026-07-07 22:01   ` Borislav Petkov
2026-07-08 14:51     ` Babu Moger
2026-07-08 17:27       ` Borislav Petkov
2026-07-08 16:55   ` Babu Moger
2026-07-08 23:28     ` Borislav Petkov
2026-07-09  0:00       ` Namhyung Kim
2026-07-09  0:12         ` Borislav Petkov
2026-07-10  0:55           ` Namhyung Kim
2026-07-10  1:46             ` Borislav Petkov
2026-08-11  2:51   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-08-11 20:02     ` Babu Moger
2026-07-07 21:50 ` [RESEND PATCH v4 02/15] x86/resctrl: Add PLZA support to command-line options Babu Moger
2026-07-08 17:39   ` Babu Moger
2026-08-11  2:53   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-08-11 20:03     ` Babu Moger
2026-07-07 21:50 ` [RESEND PATCH v4 03/15] x86/resctrl: Add data structures and definitions for PLZA configuration Babu Moger
2026-07-08 20:20   ` Babu Moger
2026-08-11  2:58   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-08-11 21:10     ` Babu Moger
2026-08-11 23:51       ` Reinette Chatre
2026-08-12 14:18         ` Moger, Babu
2026-07-07 21:50 ` [RESEND PATCH v4 04/15] fs/resctrl: Introduce kernel mode (kmode) data structures Babu Moger
2026-07-08 20:56   ` Babu Moger
2026-08-11  3:03   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-08-12 19:58     ` Moger, Babu [this message]
2026-08-12 23:28       ` Reinette Chatre
2026-07-07 21:50 ` [RESEND PATCH v4 05/15] x86,fs/resctrl: Introduce architecture hooks to program kernel-mode Babu Moger
2026-07-08 23:04   ` Moger, Babu
2026-08-11  3:14   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-08-12 22:11     ` Moger, Babu
2026-08-12 23:34       ` Reinette Chatre
2026-07-07 21:50 ` [RESEND PATCH v4 06/15] fs/resctrl: Introduce resctrl_set_kmode_support() to initialize supported modes Babu Moger
2026-08-11  3:16   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-08-12 22:28     ` Moger, Babu
2026-07-07 21:50 ` [RESEND PATCH v4 07/15] x86/resctrl: Expose the supported PLZA kernel-mode policies during init Babu Moger
2026-07-09 15:15   ` Babu Moger
2026-07-07 21:50 ` [RESEND PATCH v4 08/15] fs/resctrl: Add interface to display supported and active kernel-mode policy Babu Moger
2026-08-11  3:18   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-08-12 22:57     ` Moger, Babu
2026-08-12 23:38       ` Reinette Chatre
2026-07-07 21:50 ` [RESEND PATCH v4 09/15] fs/resctrl: Introduce kmode_cpus/kmode_cpus_list per rdtgroup Babu Moger
2026-08-11  3:20   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-07-07 21:50 ` [RESEND PATCH v4 10/15] fs/resctrl: Reset the kernel-mode binding when an rdtgroup is removed Babu Moger
2026-07-09 18:15   ` Babu Moger
2026-08-11  3:29   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-07-07 21:50 ` [RESEND PATCH v4 11/15] fs/resctrl: Program kernel-mode binding when CPU comes online Babu Moger
2026-07-09 20:01   ` Babu Moger
2026-07-07 21:50 ` [RESEND PATCH v4 12/15] fs/resctrl: Hide kmode_cpus[_list] on groups not bound to kernel-mode Babu Moger
2026-08-11  3:30   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-07-07 21:50 ` [RESEND PATCH v4 13/15] fs/resctrl: Add interface to modify kernel-mode via info/kernel_mode Babu Moger
2026-07-09 22:46   ` Moger, Babu
2026-08-11  3:40   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-07-07 21:50 ` [RESEND PATCH v4 14/15] fs/resctrl: Allow user space to write kmode_cpus/kmode_cpus_list Babu Moger
2026-07-09 23:14   ` Moger, Babu
2026-08-11  3:49   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-07-07 21:50 ` [RESEND PATCH v4 15/15] fs/resctrl: Add documentation on kernel_mode with example Babu Moger

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