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Subject: Re: [PATCH mm-unstable v17 11/14] mm/khugepaged: Introduce mTHP collapse support
Date: Thu, 21 May 2026 13:11:18 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <91015820-f39a-4b06-89de-b49e5ca465fd@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260521024654.2a7teoe665porz76@master>

On Thu, May 21, 2026 at 02:46:54AM +0000, Wei Yang wrote:
> On Thu, May 21, 2026 at 10:36:15AM +0800, Vernon Yang wrote:
> >On Mon, May 11, 2026 at 12:58:11PM -0600, Nico Pache wrote:
> >> Enable khugepaged to collapse to mTHP orders. This patch implements the
> >> main scanning logic using a bitmap to track occupied pages and a stack
> >> structure that allows us to find optimal collapse sizes.
> >>
> >> Previous to this patch, PMD collapse had 3 main phases, a light weight
> >> scanning phase (mmap_read_lock) that determines a potential PMD
> >> collapse, an alloc phase (mmap unlocked), then finally heavier collapse
> >> phase (mmap_write_lock).
> >>
> >> To enabled mTHP collapse we make the following changes:
> >>
> >> During PMD scan phase, track occupied pages in a bitmap. When mTHP
> >> orders are enabled, we remove the restriction of max_ptes_none during the
> >> scan phase to avoid missing potential mTHP collapse candidates. Once we
> >> have scanned the full PMD range and updated the bitmap to track occupied
> >> pages, we use the bitmap to find the optimal mTHP size.
> >>
> >> Implement collapse_scan_bitmap() to perform binary recursion on the bitmap
> >> and determine the best eligible order for the collapse. A stack structure
> >> is used instead of traditional recursion to manage the search. This also
> >> prevents a traditional recursive approach when the kernel stack struct is
> >> limited. The algorithm recursively splits the bitmap into smaller chunks to
> >> find the highest order mTHPs that satisfy the collapse criteria. We start
> >> by attempting the PMD order, then moved on the consecutively lower orders
> >> (mTHP collapse). The stack maintains a pair of variables (offset, order),
> >> indicating the number of PTEs from the start of the PMD, and the order of
> >> the potential collapse candidate.
> >>
> >> The algorithm for consuming the bitmap works as such:
> >>     1) push (0, HPAGE_PMD_ORDER) onto the stack
> >>     2) pop the stack
> >>     3) check if the number of set bits in that (offset,order) pair
> >>        statisfy the max_ptes_none threshold for that order
> >>     4) if yes, attempt collapse
> >>     5) if no (or collapse fails), push two new stack items representing
> >>        the left and right halves of the current bitmap range, at the
> >>        next lower order
> >>     6) repeat at step (2) until stack is empty.
> >>
> >> Below is a diagram representing the algorithm and stack items:
> >>
> >>                             offset   mid_offset
> >>                             |        |
> >>                             |        |
> >>                             v        v
> >>           ____________________________________
> >>          |          PTE Page Table            |
> >>          --------------------------------------
> >> 			    <-------><------->
> >>                              order-1  order-1
> >>
> >> mTHP collapses reject regions containing swapped out or shared pages.
> >> This is because adding new entries can lead to new none pages, and these
> >> may lead to constant promotion into a higher order mTHP. A similar
> >> issue can occur with "max_ptes_none > HPAGE_PMD_NR/2" due to a collapse
> >> introducing at least 2x the number of pages, and on a future scan will
> >> satisfy the promotion condition once again. This issue is prevented via
> >> the collapse_max_ptes_none() function which imposes the max_ptes_none
> >> restrictions above.
> >>
> >> We currently only support mTHP collapse for max_ptes_none values of 0
> >> and HPAGE_PMD_NR - 1. resulting in the following behavior:
> >>
> >>     - max_ptes_none=0: Never introduce new empty pages during collapse
> >>     - max_ptes_none=HPAGE_PMD_NR-1: Always try collapse to the highest
> >>       available mTHP order
> >>
> >> Any other max_ptes_none value will emit a warning and skip mTHP collapse
> >> attempts. There should be no behavior change for PMD collapse.
> >>
> >> Once we determine what mTHP sizes fits best in that PMD range a collapse
> >> is attempted. A minimum collapse order of 2 is used as this is the lowest
> >> order supported by anon memory as defined by THP_ORDERS_ALL_ANON.
> >>
> >> Currently madv_collapse is not supported and will only attempt PMD
> >> collapse.
> >>
> >> We can also remove the check for is_khugepaged inside the PMD scan as
> >> the collapse_max_ptes_none() function handles this logic now.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com>
> >> ---
> >>  mm/khugepaged.c | 182 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---
> >>  1 file changed, 174 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)
> >>
> >> diff --git a/mm/khugepaged.c b/mm/khugepaged.c
> >> index 3492b135d667..39bf7ea8a6e8 100644
> >> --- a/mm/khugepaged.c
> >> +++ b/mm/khugepaged.c
> >> @@ -100,6 +100,30 @@ static DEFINE_READ_MOSTLY_HASHTABLE(mm_slots_hash, MM_SLOTS_HASH_BITS);
> >>
> >>  static struct kmem_cache *mm_slot_cache __ro_after_init;
> >>
> >> +#define KHUGEPAGED_MIN_MTHP_ORDER	2
> >> +/*
> >> + * mthp_collapse() does an iterative DFS over a binary tree, from
> >> + * HPAGE_PMD_ORDER down to KHUGEPAGED_MIN_MTHP_ORDER. The max stack
> >> + * size needed for a DFS on a binary tree is height + 1, where
> >> + * height = HPAGE_PMD_ORDER - KHUGEPAGED_MIN_MTHP_ORDER.
> >> + *
> >> + * ilog2 is used in place of HPAGE_PMD_ORDER because some architectures
> >> + * (e.g. ppc64le) do not define HPAGE_PMD_ORDER until after build time.
> >> + */
> >> +#define MTHP_STACK_SIZE	(ilog2(MAX_PTRS_PER_PTE) - KHUGEPAGED_MIN_MTHP_ORDER + 1)
> >> +
> >> +/*
> >> + * Defines a range of PTE entries in a PTE page table which are being
> >> + * considered for mTHP collapse.
> >> + *
> >> + * @offset: the offset of the first PTE entry in a PMD range.
> >> + * @order: the order of the PTE entries being considered for collapse.
> >> + */
> >> +struct mthp_range {
> >> +	u16 offset;
> >> +	u8 order;
> >> +};
> >> +
> >>  struct collapse_control {
> >>  	bool is_khugepaged;
> >>
> >> @@ -111,6 +135,12 @@ struct collapse_control {
> >>
> >>  	/* nodemask for allocation fallback */
> >>  	nodemask_t alloc_nmask;
> >> +
> >> +	/* Each bit represents a single occupied (!none/zero) page. */
> >> +	DECLARE_BITMAP(mthp_bitmap, MAX_PTRS_PER_PTE);
> >> +	/* A mask of the current range being considered for mTHP collapse. */
> >> +	DECLARE_BITMAP(mthp_bitmap_mask, MAX_PTRS_PER_PTE);
> >> +	struct mthp_range mthp_bitmap_stack[MTHP_STACK_SIZE];
> >>  };
> >>
> >>  /**
> >> @@ -1404,20 +1434,140 @@ static enum scan_result collapse_huge_page(struct mm_struct *mm, unsigned long s
> >>  	return result;
> >>  }
> >>
> >> +static void collapse_mthp_stack_push(struct collapse_control *cc, int *stack_size,
> >> +				     u16 offset, u8 order)
> >> +{
> >> +	const int size = *stack_size;
> >> +	struct mthp_range *stack = &cc->mthp_bitmap_stack[size];
> >> +
> >> +	VM_WARN_ON_ONCE(size >= MTHP_STACK_SIZE);
> >> +	stack->order = order;
> >> +	stack->offset = offset;
> >> +	(*stack_size)++;
> >> +}
> >> +
> >> +static struct mthp_range collapse_mthp_stack_pop(struct collapse_control *cc,
> >> +						 int *stack_size)
> >> +{
> >> +	const int size = *stack_size;
> >> +
> >> +	VM_WARN_ON_ONCE(size <= 0);
> >> +	(*stack_size)--;
> >> +	return cc->mthp_bitmap_stack[size - 1];
> >> +}
> >> +
> >> +static unsigned int collapse_mthp_count_present(struct collapse_control *cc,
> >> +						u16 offset, unsigned int nr_ptes)
> >> +{
> >> +	bitmap_zero(cc->mthp_bitmap_mask, MAX_PTRS_PER_PTE);
> >> +	bitmap_set(cc->mthp_bitmap_mask, offset, nr_ptes);
> >> +	return bitmap_weight_and(cc->mthp_bitmap, cc->mthp_bitmap_mask, MAX_PTRS_PER_PTE);
> >> +}
> >> +
> >> +/*
> >> + * mthp_collapse() consumes the bitmap that is generated during
> >> + * collapse_scan_pmd() to determine what regions and mTHP orders fit best.
> >> + *
> >> + * Each bit in cc->mthp_bitmap represents a single occupied (!none/zero) page.
> >> + * A stack structure cc->mthp_bitmap_stack is used to check different regions
> >> + * of the bitmap for collapse eligibility. The stack maintains a pair of
> >> + * variables (offset, order), indicating the number of PTEs from the start of
> >> + * the PMD, and the order of the potential collapse candidate respectively. We
> >> + * start at the PMD order and check if it is eligible for collapse; if not, we
> >> + * add two entries to the stack at a lower order to represent the left and right
> >> + * halves of the PTE page table we are examining.
> >> + *
> >> + *                         offset       mid_offset
> >> + *                         |         |
> >> + *                         |         |
> >> + *                         v         v
> >> + *      --------------------------------------
> >> + *      |          cc->mthp_bitmap            |
> >> + *      --------------------------------------
> >> + *                         <-------><------->
> >> + *                          order-1  order-1
> >> + *
> >> + * For each of these, we determine how many PTE entries are occupied in the
> >> + * range of PTE entries we propose to collapse, then we compare this to a
> >> + * threshold number of PTE entries which would need to be occupied for a
> >> + * collapse to be permitted at that order (accounting for max_ptes_none).
> >> + *
> >> + * If a collapse is permitted, we attempt to collapse the PTE range into a
> >> + * mTHP.
> >> + */
> >> +static int mthp_collapse(struct mm_struct *mm, unsigned long address,
> >> +		int referenced, int unmapped, struct collapse_control *cc,
> >> +		unsigned long enabled_orders)
> >> +{
> >> +	unsigned int nr_occupied_ptes, nr_ptes;
> >> +	int max_ptes_none, collapsed = 0, stack_size = 0;
> >> +	unsigned long collapse_address;
> >> +	struct mthp_range range;
> >> +	u16 offset;
> >> +	u8 order;
> >> +
> >> +	collapse_mthp_stack_push(cc, &stack_size, 0, HPAGE_PMD_ORDER);
> >> +
> >> +	while (stack_size) {
> >> +		range = collapse_mthp_stack_pop(cc, &stack_size);
> >> +		order = range.order;
> >> +		offset = range.offset;
> >> +		nr_ptes = 1UL << order;
> >> +
> >> +		if (!test_bit(order, &enabled_orders))
> >> +			goto next_order;
> >> +
> >> +		max_ptes_none = collapse_max_ptes_none(cc, NULL, order);
> >> +
> >> +		if (max_ptes_none < 0)
> >> +			return collapsed;
> >> +
> >> +		nr_occupied_ptes = collapse_mthp_count_present(cc, offset,
> >> +							       nr_ptes);
> >> +
> >> +		if (nr_occupied_ptes >= nr_ptes - max_ptes_none) {
> >> +			int ret;
> >> +
> >> +			collapse_address = address + offset * PAGE_SIZE;
> >> +			ret = collapse_huge_page(mm, collapse_address, referenced,
> >> +						 unmapped, cc, order);
> >> +			if (ret == SCAN_SUCCEED) {
> >> +				collapsed += nr_ptes;
> >> +				continue;
> >> +			}
> >> +		}
> >> +
> >> +next_order:
> >> +		if (order > KHUGEPAGED_MIN_MTHP_ORDER) {
> >
> >Hi Nico, thank you very much for your contributions to this series.
> >
> >I found a minor issue, for MADV_COLLAPSE, if collapse_huge_page() fails
> >for some reason (e.g. allocate folio), it goes to next_order and
> >continues splitting to the next small order. However, enabled_orders
> >only supports HPAGE_PMD_ORDER, so it keeps runing the split operations
> >without any effective work until KHUGEPAGED_MIN_MTHP_ORDER is reached
> >before exiting. For khugepaged, e.g. setting only 2MB to always, also
> >same phenomenon.
>
> Yes, but it does no actual work since it is checked after pop up.
>
> >
> >This does not affect the overall functionality of mthp collapse, just
> >redundant.
> >
> >The redundant operations can be easily skipped with the following
> >modification. If I miss some thing, please let me know. Thanks!
> >
> >diff --git a/mm/khugepaged.c b/mm/khugepaged.c
> >index 1a25af3d6d0f..fa407cce525c 100644
> >--- a/mm/khugepaged.c
> >+++ b/mm/khugepaged.c
> >@@ -1574,7 +1574,7 @@ static int mthp_collapse(struct mm_struct *mm, unsigned long address,
> > 		}
> >
> > next_order:
> >-		if (order > KHUGEPAGED_MIN_MTHP_ORDER) {
> >+		if ((BIT(order) - 1) & enabled_orders) {
> > 			const u8 next_order = order - 1;
> > 			const u16 mid_offset = offset + (nr_ptes / 2);
> >
>
> This would stop the iteration if there are other lower enabled order, right?
             ^^^^                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

NO :)

For more details, please refer to the following information.

|              Scenario               | Old Behavior (order > 2) | New Behavior ((BIT(order)-1) & enabled_orders) |
|-------------------------------------|--------------------------|------------------------------------------------|
| MADV_COLLAPSE                       | Splits 9,8,7,...,3       | No split                                       |
| khugepaged, only 2MB enabled        | Splits 9,8,7,...,3       | No split                                       |
| khugepaged, only 2MB + 64KB enabled | Splits 9,8,7,...,3       | Splits 9,8,7,...,5                             |
| khugepaged, only 32KB enabled       | Splits 9,8,7,...,3       | Splits 9,8,7,...,4                             |
| khugepaged, only 16KB enabled       | Splits 9,8,7,...,3       | Splits 9,8,7,...,3                             |
| khugepaged, all mTHP enabled        | Splits 9,8,7,...,3       | Splits 9,8,7,...,3                             |

--
Cheers,
Vernon

  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-21  5:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-11 18:58 [PATCH mm-unstable v17 00/14] khugepaged: mTHP support Nico Pache
2026-05-11 18:58 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v17 01/14] mm/khugepaged: generalize hugepage_vma_revalidate for " Nico Pache
2026-05-11 18:58 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v17 02/14] mm/khugepaged: generalize alloc_charge_folio() Nico Pache
2026-05-18 11:55   ` Usama Arif
2026-05-18 14:49     ` Lance Yang
2026-05-19 19:03       ` Nico Pache
2026-05-11 18:58 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v17 03/14] mm/khugepaged: rework max_ptes_* handling with helper functions Nico Pache
2026-05-12  4:44   ` Lance Yang
2026-05-19 18:21     ` Nico Pache
2026-05-12  7:29   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-19 18:21     ` Nico Pache
2026-05-20 14:43       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-11 18:58 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v17 04/14] mm/khugepaged: generalize __collapse_huge_page_* for mTHP support Nico Pache
2026-05-12  7:42   ` Lance Yang
2026-05-14  3:10     ` Wei Yang
2026-05-18 13:16       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-18 19:32         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-19 19:05           ` Nico Pache
2026-05-21 14:59             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-18 13:49   ` Usama Arif
2026-05-11 18:58 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v17 05/14] mm/khugepaged: require collapse_huge_page to enter/exit with the lock dropped Nico Pache
2026-05-12  7:42   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-11 18:58 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v17 06/14] mm/khugepaged: generalize collapse_huge_page for mTHP collapse Nico Pache
2026-05-18 17:00   ` Usama Arif
2026-05-11 18:58 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v17 07/14] mm/khugepaged: skip collapsing mTHP to smaller orders Nico Pache
2026-05-11 18:58 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v17 08/14] mm/khugepaged: add per-order mTHP collapse failure statistics Nico Pache
2026-05-11 18:58 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v17 09/14] mm/khugepaged: improve tracepoints for mTHP orders Nico Pache
2026-05-11 18:58 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v17 10/14] mm/khugepaged: introduce collapse_allowable_orders helper function Nico Pache
2026-05-11 18:58 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v17 11/14] mm/khugepaged: Introduce mTHP collapse support Nico Pache
2026-05-12 15:44   ` Wei Yang
2026-05-20 12:05     ` Nico Pache
2026-05-21  1:55       ` Wei Yang
2026-05-25 13:08         ` Nico Pache
2026-05-21  2:36   ` Vernon Yang
2026-05-21  2:46     ` Wei Yang
2026-05-21  5:11       ` Vernon Yang [this message]
2026-05-21 14:32         ` Wei Yang
2026-05-22 12:39     ` Nico Pache
2026-05-11 18:58 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v17 12/14] mm/khugepaged: avoid unnecessary mTHP collapse attempts Nico Pache
2026-05-11 18:58 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v17 13/14] mm/khugepaged: run khugepaged for all orders Nico Pache
2026-05-11 18:58 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v17 14/14] Documentation: mm: update the admin guide for mTHP collapse Nico Pache
2026-05-11 21:04 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v17 00/14] khugepaged: mTHP support Andrew Morton
2026-05-18 12:50 ` Wei Yang
2026-05-19 19:20   ` Nico Pache

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