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From: "André Almeida" <andrealmeid@igalia.com>
To: "Guilherme G. Piccoli" <gpiccoli@igalia.com>
Cc: tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org, bp@alien8.de,
	dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, hpa@zytor.com, luto@kernel.org,
	corbet@lwn.net, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, kernel-dev@igalia.com,
	kernel@gpiccoli.net, Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu@intel.com>,
	Joshua Ashton <joshua@froggi.es>, Melissa Wen <mwen@igalia.com>,
	Paul Gofman <pgofman@codeweavers.com>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@denx.de>,
	Pierre-Loup Griffais <pgriffais@valvesoftware.com>,
	Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	Zebediah Figura <zfigura@codeweavers.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2] x86/split_lock: Add sysctl to control the misery mode
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 15:17:03 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9a606366-6ac7-3802-5c25-91057ad833cb@igalia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221014180506.211592-1-gpiccoli@igalia.com>

Hi Guilherme,

On 10/14/22 15:05, Guilherme G. Piccoli wrote:
> Commit b041b525dab9 ("x86/split_lock: Make life miserable for split lockers")
> changed the way the split lock detector works when in "warn" mode;
> basically, not only it shows the warn message, but also intentionally
> introduces a slowdown (through sleeping plus serialization mechanism)
> on such task. Based on discussions in [0], seems the warning alone
> wasn't enough motivation for userspace developers to fix their
> applications.
> 
> Happens that originally the proposal in [0] was to add a new mode
> which would warns + slowdown the "split locking" task, keeping the
> old warn mode untouched. In the end, that idea was discarded and
> the regular/default "warn" mode now slowdowns the applications. This
> is quite aggressive with regards proprietary/legacy programs that
> basically are unable to properly run in kernel with this change.
> While is understandable that a malicious application could try a DoS
> by split locking, it seems unacceptable to regress old/proprietary
> userspace programs through a default configuration that previously
> worked. An example of such breakage was reported in [1].
> 
> So let's add a sysctl to allow controlling the "misery mode" behavior,
> as per Thomas suggestion on [2]. This way, users running legacy and/or
> proprietary software are allowed to still execute them with a decent
> performance while still observe the warning messages on kernel log.
> 
> [0] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220217012721.9694-1-tony.luck@intel.com/
> 
> [1] https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk/issues/2938
> 
> [2] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/87pmf4bter.ffs@tglx/
> 
> Fixes: b041b525dab9 ("x86/split_lock: Make life miserable for split lockers")
> Cc: Andre Almeida <andrealmeid@igalia.com>
> Cc: Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu@intel.com>
> Cc: Joshua Ashton <joshua@froggi.es>
> Cc: Melissa Wen <mwen@igalia.com>
> Cc: Paul Gofman <pgofman@codeweavers.com>
> Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@denx.de>
> Cc: Pierre-Loup Griffais <pgriffais@valvesoftware.com>
> Cc: Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>
> Cc: Zebediah Figura <zfigura@codeweavers.com>
> Suggested-by: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
> Signed-off-by: Guilherme G. Piccoli <gpiccoli@igalia.com>

Tested-by: André Almeida <andrealmeid@igalia.com>

Tested on an Intel i7-1165G7 using a small benchmarking script, the 
behavior is effectively reverted when using the sysctl option.

Also, you might want to document this option somewhere? Maybe at 
Documentation/admin-guide/sysctl/kernel.rst

  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-14 18:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-14 18:05 [PATCH V2] x86/split_lock: Add sysctl to control the misery mode Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-10-14 18:17 ` André Almeida [this message]
2022-10-14 18:20   ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-10-14 18:22     ` André Almeida
2022-10-14 18:26 ` Luck, Tony
2022-10-15  0:19   ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-10-16  3:00 ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-10-16 12:26   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-10-17 13:57   ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-10-21 16:56 ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-10-21 17:27 ` Dave Hansen
2022-10-21 19:03   ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-10-21 19:07     ` Dave Hansen

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