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From: Babu Moger <babu.moger@amd.com>
To: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 01/12] x86/resctrl: Support Privilege-Level Zero Association (PLZA)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2026 11:28:50 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a5041b92-36c5-4ce0-811c-277a41f4d01a@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <353185bd-2b3e-484e-bf4c-e774c70ea63c@intel.com>

Hi Reinette,


On 6/16/26 19:00, Reinette Chatre wrote:
> Hi Babu,
> 
> On 6/12/26 9:56 AM, Moger, Babu wrote:
>> Hi Reinette,
>>
>> On 6/11/2026 6:23 PM, Reinette Chatre wrote:
>>> Hi Babu,
>>>
>>> On 4/30/26 4:24 PM, Babu Moger wrote:
>>>> Customers have identified an issue while using the QoS resource Control
>>>
>>> "Control" -> "control"?
>>>
>>
>> ack
>>
>>>> feature. If a memory bandwidth associated with a CLOSID is aggressively
>>>
>>> "a memory bandwidth" -> "memory bandwidth"?
>>
>> ack.
>>
>>>
>>>> throttled, and it moves into Kernel mode, the Kernel operations are also
>>>
>>> What does "it" refer to here? From text it seems to be the "CLOSID" but that
>>> does not sound right? Should "it" instead be something like "a task with that
>>> CLOSID"?
>>
>> sure.
>>
>>>
>>> "Kernel" -> "kernel"?
>>
>> ack.
>>>
>>>> aggressively throttled. This can stall forward progress and eventually
>>>> degrade overall system performance. AMD hardware supports a feature
>>>> Privilege-Level Zero Association (PLZA) to change the association of the
>>>> thread as soon as it begins executing.
>>>
>>> "change the association of the thread as soon as it begins executing." I am
>>> not able to parse this.
>>
>> How about ?
>>
>> Customers have identified an issue while using the QoS resource Control
>> feature. If memory bandwidth associated with a CLOSID is aggressively
>> throttled, and a task with that CLOSID moves into kernel mode, the kernel operations are also aggressively throttled. This can stall forward progress and eventually degrade overall system performance.
>> AMD hardware supports a feature Privilege-Level Zero Association (PLZA)
>> to change the CPU association at the user-to-kernel transition, so the kernel execution can use a different association than user mode.
> 
> "change the CPU association at the user-to-kernel transition" -> What is this
> trying to describe? CPU association of what?
> 
> "a different association"? What does this mean?
> 

Will change it to:

AMD hardware supports a feature Privilege-Level Zero Association (PLZA),
which allows the CPU’s CLOSID association to be changed during the 
transition from user mode to kernel mode. This enables the kernel to 
operate with a different CLOSID than the user mode.


>>
>> Privilege-Level Zero Association (PLZA) allows the user to specify a> CLOSID and/or RMID associated with execution in Privilege-Level
>> Zero. When enabled on a CPU, as the CPU enters Privilege-Level Zero,
>> allocation and monitoring for that CPU will be associated with the
>> PLZA CLOSID and/or RMID. Otherwise, the CPU will be associated with
>> the CLOSID and RMID given by PQR_ASSOC.
> 
> 
> Sounds like this is vague because MSR_IA32_PQR_PLZA_ASSOC has not been
> introduced yet. Could it help to introduce MSR_IA32_PQR_PLZA_ASSOC as
> part of this patch and then the changelog can be specific about PLZA
> feature introducing this new MSR and how it complements MSR_IA32_PQR_ASSOC?

Its probably better to remove the second paragraph. This text can go 
with the patch which introduces MSR_IA32_PQR_PLZA_ASSOC.

With splitting the patch, this will only have cpufeatures changes.

> 
> ...
> 
>>>>    Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt | 2 +-
>>>>    arch/x86/include/asm/cpufeatures.h              | 1 +
>>>>    arch/x86/kernel/cpu/resctrl/core.c              | 2 ++
>>>>    arch/x86/kernel/cpu/scattered.c                 | 1 +
>>>
>>> Please split changes to other subsystems and make these changes
>>> obvious with their own subject prefix to avoid sneaking changes into
>>> other subsystems via resctrl.
>>>
>>
>> Ok. Will be two patches.
>> 1. For Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
>> 2.  arch/x86/include/asm/cpufeatures.h
>>      arch/x86/kernel/cpu/resctrl/core.c
>>      arch/x86/kernel/cpu/scattered.c
> 
> The resctrl changes found in (2) would be documented in (1)? That does not
> look right. Why not just split the resctrl changes from the cpufeatures changes?
> This would be similar to how you did ABMC enabling.
> 

Sounds good.

Thanks
Babu

  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-17 16:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-30 23:24 [PATCH v3 00/12] [PATCH v3 00/12] x86/resctrl: Add kernel-mode (e.g., PLZA) support to the resctrl subsystem Babu Moger
2026-04-30 23:24 ` [PATCH v3 01/12] x86/resctrl: Support Privilege-Level Zero Association (PLZA) Babu Moger
2026-06-11 23:23   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-12 16:56     ` Moger, Babu
2026-06-12 17:00       ` Moger, Babu
2026-06-17  0:00       ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-17 16:28         ` Babu Moger [this message]
2026-04-30 23:24 ` [PATCH v3 02/12] x86/resctrl: Add data structures and definitions for PLZA configuration Babu Moger
2026-06-11 23:40   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-12 15:40     ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-12 17:46       ` Moger, Babu
2026-06-12 17:32     ` Moger, Babu
2026-06-12 17:49       ` Moger, Babu
2026-04-30 23:24 ` [PATCH v3 03/12] fs/resctrl: Add kernel mode (kmode) data structures and arch hook Babu Moger
2026-06-16 23:30   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-17 19:36     ` Babu Moger
2026-04-30 23:24 ` [PATCH v3 04/12] x86,fs/resctrl: Program PLZA through kmode arch hooks Babu Moger
2026-05-19 20:59   ` Luck, Tony
2026-05-20 17:49     ` Babu Moger
2026-05-20 22:16       ` Luck, Tony
2026-05-20 23:09         ` Moger, Babu
2026-06-11 11:44           ` Peter Newman
2026-06-11 14:46             ` Babu Moger
2026-06-16 23:33   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-17 23:15     ` Moger, Babu
2026-04-30 23:24 ` [PATCH v3 05/12] x86/resctrl: Initialize supported kernel modes for PLZA Babu Moger
2026-06-16 23:35   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-04-30 23:24 ` [PATCH v3 06/12] fs/resctrl: Initialize the global kernel-mode policy at subsystem init Babu Moger
2026-06-16 23:36   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-04-30 23:24 ` [PATCH v3 07/12] fs/resctrl: Add info/kernel_mode for kernel-mode policy introspection Babu Moger
2026-06-16 23:38   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-04-30 23:24 ` [PATCH v3 08/12] fs/resctrl: Make info/kernel_mode writable and identify the bound group Babu Moger
2026-06-16 23:42   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-04-30 23:24 ` [PATCH v3 09/12] fs/resctrl: Reset kernel-mode binding when its rdtgroup goes away Babu Moger
2026-06-16 23:42   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-04-30 23:24 ` [PATCH v3 10/12] fs/resctrl: Expose kmode_cpus / kmode_cpus_list per rdtgroup Babu Moger
2026-04-30 23:24 ` [PATCH v3 11/12] resctrl: Hide kmode_cpus[_list] on groups not bound to kernel-mode Babu Moger
2026-04-30 23:24 ` [PATCH v3 12/12] fs/resctrl: Allow user space to write kmode_cpus / kmode_cpus_list Babu Moger
2026-06-11 21:53 ` [PATCH v3 00/12] [PATCH v3 00/12] x86/resctrl: Add kernel-mode (e.g., PLZA) support to the resctrl subsystem Reinette Chatre
2026-06-12 15:37   ` Moger, Babu
2026-06-17  4:34     ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-17 15:56       ` Babu Moger
2026-06-17 17:33         ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-17 19:55           ` Babu Moger

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