From: Tzung-Bi Shih <tzungbi@kernel.org>
To: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
Cc: Bartosz Golaszewski <brgl@bgdev.pl>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Bartosz Golaszewski <bartosz.golaszewski@linaro.org>,
Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>,
Benson Leung <bleung@chromium.org>,
"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
Dawid Niedzwiecki <dawidn@google.com>,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
chrome-platform@lists.linux.dev, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
Wolfram Sang <wsa+renesas@sang-engineering.com>,
Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/5] platform/chrome: Fix a possible UAF via revocable
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2025 23:55:45 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aMWUAS9jReia0jhy@tzungbi-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250912145416.GL31682@pendragon.ideasonboard.com>
On Fri, Sep 12, 2025 at 05:54:16PM +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2025 at 04:44:56PM +0200, Bartosz Golaszewski wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 12, 2025 at 4:40 PM Greg Kroah-Hartman
> > <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dan's proposal here is a good start, but the "sleep in cdev_del() until
> > > the device drains all existing opens" is going to not really work well
> > > for what we want.
> > >
> > > So sure, make a new cdev api to use this, that's fine, then we will have
> > > what, 5 different ways to use a cdev? :)
> > >
> > > Seriously, that would be good, then we can work to convert things over,
> > > but I think overall it will look much the same as what patch 5/5 does
> > > here. But details matter, I don't really known for sure...
> > >
> > > Either way, I think this patch series stands on its own, it doesn't
> > > require cdev to implement it, drivers can use it to wrap a cdev if they
> > > want to. We have other structures that want to do this type of thing
> > > today as is proof with the rust implementation for the devm api.
> >
> > Yeah, I'm not against this going upstream. If more development is
> > needed for this to be usable in other parts of the kernel, that can be
> > done gradually. Literally no subsystem ever was perfect on day 1.
>
> To be clear, I'm not against the API being merged for the use cases that
> would benefit from it, but I don't want to see drivers using it to
> protect from the cdev/unregistration race.
Based on the discussion thread, my main takeaways are:
- Current `revocable` is considered a low level API. We shouldn't (and
likely can't) stop drivers, like the one in patch 5/5 in the series,
from using it directly to fix UAFs.
- Subsystems (like cdev) should build on this API to provide an easier
interface for their drivers to manage revocable resources.
I'll create a PoC based on this.
> > Tzung-Bi: I'm not sure if you did submit anything but I'd love to see
> > this discussed during Linux Plumbers in Tokyo, it's the perfect fit
> > for the kernel summit.
Yes, and I just realized that in addition to the website submission, a
separate email is also required (or at least encouraged). I've just sent
that email and am hoping it's not too late.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-13 15:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-12 8:17 [PATCH v3 0/5] platform/chrome: Fix a possible UAF via revocable Tzung-Bi Shih
2025-09-12 8:17 ` [PATCH v3 1/5] revocable: Revocable resource management Tzung-Bi Shih
2025-09-12 9:05 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-13 15:56 ` Tzung-Bi Shih
2025-09-12 13:27 ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-09-13 15:56 ` Tzung-Bi Shih
2025-09-17 5:24 ` Tzung-Bi Shih
2025-09-22 18:35 ` Simona Vetter
2025-09-12 8:17 ` [PATCH v3 2/5] revocable: Add Kunit test cases Tzung-Bi Shih
2025-09-12 8:17 ` [PATCH v3 3/5] selftests: revocable: Add kselftest cases Tzung-Bi Shih
2025-09-12 8:17 ` [PATCH v3 4/5] platform/chrome: Protect cros_ec_device lifecycle with revocable Tzung-Bi Shih
2025-09-12 8:17 ` [PATCH v3 5/5] platform/chrome: cros_ec_chardev: Consume cros_ec_device via revocable Tzung-Bi Shih
2025-09-12 8:30 ` [PATCH v3 0/5] platform/chrome: Fix a possible UAF " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-09-12 8:34 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-12 9:20 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-12 9:09 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-09-12 9:24 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2025-09-12 12:49 ` Tzung-Bi Shih
2025-09-12 13:26 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-12 13:39 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-09-12 13:45 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-12 13:46 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2025-09-12 13:59 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-12 14:19 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-09-12 14:26 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-12 14:40 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-09-12 14:44 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2025-09-12 14:54 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-12 16:22 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-13 16:17 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-22 22:43 ` dan.j.williams
2025-09-13 15:55 ` Tzung-Bi Shih [this message]
2025-09-13 16:14 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-23 8:20 ` Tzung-Bi Shih
2025-09-12 14:53 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-22 15:10 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-22 15:55 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-22 17:40 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-22 18:42 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-09-22 20:17 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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