* Re: [PATCH] kexec: allocate kernel above bzImage's pref_address
2023-12-15 21:17 ` Dave Hansen
@ 2023-12-15 21:38 ` Chris Koch
2023-12-15 22:05 ` Dave Hansen
2023-12-15 23:08 ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-12-15 23:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Chris Koch @ 2023-12-15 21:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dave Hansen
Cc: Jonathan Corbet, Thomas Gleixner, Ingo Molnar, Borislav Petkov,
Dave Hansen, H. Peter Anvin, linux-doc, x86, linux-kernel,
Cloud Hsu
On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 1:17 PM Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com> wrote:
>
> On 12/15/23 11:05, Chris Koch wrote:
> > A relocatable kernel will relocate itself to pref_address if it is
> > loaded below pref_address. This means a booted kernel may be relocating
> > itself to an area with reserved memory on modern systems, potentially
> > clobbering arbitrary data that may be important to the system.
> >
> > This is often the case, as the default value of PHYSICAL_START is
> > 0x1000000 and kernels are typically loaded at 0x100000 or above by
> > bootloaders like iPXE or kexec. GRUB behaves like this patch does.
> >
> > Also fixes the documentation around pref_address and PHYSICAL_START to
> > be accurate.
>
> Are you reporting a bug and is this a bug fix? It's not super clear
> from the changelog.
I reported it as a bug yesterday in
https://lkml.org/lkml/2023/12/14/1529 -- I'm happy to reword this in
some way that indicates it's a bug fix.
>
>
> > diff --git a/Documentation/arch/x86/boot.rst b/Documentation/arch/x86/boot.rst
> > index 22cc7a040dae..49bea8986620 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/arch/x86/boot.rst
> > +++ b/Documentation/arch/x86/boot.rst
> > @@ -878,7 +878,8 @@ Protocol: 2.10+
> > address if possible.
> >
> > A non-relocatable kernel will unconditionally move itself and to run
> > - at this address.
> > + at this address. A relocatable kernel will move itself to this address if it
> > + loaded below this address.
>
> I think we should avoid saying the same things over and over again in
> different spots.
>
> Here, it doesn't really help to enumerate the different interpretations
> of 'pref_address'. All that matters is that the bootloader can avoid
> the overhead of a later copy if it can place the kernel at
> 'pref_address'. The exact reasons that various kernels might decide to
> relocate are unimportant here.
I think it's important documentation for bootloader authors. It's not
about avoiding overhead, it's about avoiding clobbering areas of
memory that may be reserved in e820 / EFI memory map, which the kernel
will do when it relocates itself to pref_address without checking
what's reserved and what's not. It emphasizes the importance of
choosing an address above pref_address. Happy to reword some way to
reflect that.
>
> > ============ =======
> > Field name: init_size
> > diff --git a/arch/x86/Kconfig b/arch/x86/Kconfig
> > index 3762f41bb092..1370f43328d7 100644
> > --- a/arch/x86/Kconfig
> > +++ b/arch/x86/Kconfig
> > @@ -2109,11 +2109,11 @@ config PHYSICAL_START
> > help
> > This gives the physical address where the kernel is loaded.
> >
> > - If kernel is a not relocatable (CONFIG_RELOCATABLE=n) then
> > - bzImage will decompress itself to above physical address and
> > - run from there. Otherwise, bzImage will run from the address where
> > - it has been loaded by the boot loader and will ignore above physical
> > - address.
> > + If the kernel is not relocatable (CONFIG_RELOCATABLE=n) then bzImage
> > + will decompress itself to above physical address and run from there.
> > + Otherwise, bzImage will run from the address where it has been loaded
> > + by the boot loader. The only exception is if it is loaded below the
> > + above physical address, in which case it will relocate itself there.
>
> I kinda dislike how this is written. It's written almost like code
> where you're spelling out the conditions. I prefer something much
> higher-level.
>
> This gives a minimum physical address at which the kernel can be
> loaded.
>
> CONFIG_RELOCATABLE=n kernels will be decompressed to and must
> run at PHYSICAL_START exactly.
>
> CONFIG_RELOCATABLE=y kernels can run at any address above
> PHYSICAL_START. If a kernel is loaded below PHYSICAL_START, it
> will relocate itself to PHYSICAL_START.
Happy to change that, yours is better.
>
> > In normal kdump cases one does not have to set/change this option
> > as now bzImage can be compiled as a completely relocatable image
> > diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/kexec-bzimage64.c b/arch/x86/kernel/kexec-bzimage64.c
> > index a61c12c01270..5dcd232d58bf 100644
> > --- a/arch/x86/kernel/kexec-bzimage64.c
> > +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/kexec-bzimage64.c
> > @@ -498,7 +498,10 @@ static void *bzImage64_load(struct kimage *image, char *kernel,
> > kbuf.bufsz = kernel_len - kern16_size;
> > kbuf.memsz = PAGE_ALIGN(header->init_size);
> > kbuf.buf_align = header->kernel_alignment;
> > - kbuf.buf_min = MIN_KERNEL_LOAD_ADDR;
> > + if (header->pref_address < MIN_KERNEL_LOAD_ADDR)
> > + kbuf.buf_min = MIN_KERNEL_LOAD_ADDR;
> > + else
> > + kbuf.buf_min = header->pref_address;
> > kbuf.mem = KEXEC_BUF_MEM_UNKNOWN;
> > ret = kexec_add_buffer(&kbuf);
> > if (ret)
>
> Comment, please.
>
> It isn't clear from this hunk why or how this fixes the bug. How does
> this manage to avoid clobbering reserved areas?
When allocated above pref_address, the kernel will not relocate itself
to an area that potentially overlaps with reserved memory. I'll add a
comment.
Not sure what the etiquette is on immediately sending a patch v2, or
waiting for more comments. I'll err on waiting on a couple more
comments before sending v2. Thanks for the review
Chris
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* Re: [PATCH] kexec: allocate kernel above bzImage's pref_address
2023-12-15 21:38 ` Chris Koch
@ 2023-12-15 22:05 ` Dave Hansen
0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Dave Hansen @ 2023-12-15 22:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Chris Koch
Cc: Jonathan Corbet, Thomas Gleixner, Ingo Molnar, Borislav Petkov,
Dave Hansen, H. Peter Anvin, linux-doc, x86, linux-kernel,
Cloud Hsu
On 12/15/23 13:38, Chris Koch wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 1:17 PM Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com> wrote:
...
>> Are you reporting a bug and is this a bug fix? It's not super clear
>> from the changelog.
>
> I reported it as a bug yesterday in
> https://lkml.org/lkml/2023/12/14/1529 -- I'm happy to reword this in
> some way that indicates it's a bug fix.
Ahh, thanks for the link!
Please do include things like this as a "Link:" tag in the changelog
(and use lore.kernel.org URLs when possible).
>>> diff --git a/Documentation/arch/x86/boot.rst b/Documentation/arch/x86/boot.rst
>>> index 22cc7a040dae..49bea8986620 100644
>>> --- a/Documentation/arch/x86/boot.rst
>>> +++ b/Documentation/arch/x86/boot.rst
>>> @@ -878,7 +878,8 @@ Protocol: 2.10+
>>> address if possible.
>>>
>>> A non-relocatable kernel will unconditionally move itself and to run
>>> - at this address.
>>> + at this address. A relocatable kernel will move itself to this address if it
>>> + loaded below this address.
>>
>> I think we should avoid saying the same things over and over again in
>> different spots.
>>
>> Here, it doesn't really help to enumerate the different interpretations
>> of 'pref_address'. All that matters is that the bootloader can avoid
>> the overhead of a later copy if it can place the kernel at
>> 'pref_address'. The exact reasons that various kernels might decide to
>> relocate are unimportant here.
>
> I think it's important documentation for bootloader authors. It's not
> about avoiding overhead, it's about avoiding clobbering areas of
> memory that may be reserved in e820 / EFI memory map, which the kernel
> will do when it relocates itself to pref_address without checking
> what's reserved and what's not. It emphasizes the importance of
> choosing an address above pref_address. Happy to reword some way to
> reflect that.
Could we give this as a direction to bootloader authors? They should
read 'pref_address' as a big, fat, "the kernel may blow this address
away" message.
...
>>> In normal kdump cases one does not have to set/change this option
>>> as now bzImage can be compiled as a completely relocatable image
>>> diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/kexec-bzimage64.c b/arch/x86/kernel/kexec-bzimage64.c
>>> index a61c12c01270..5dcd232d58bf 100644
>>> --- a/arch/x86/kernel/kexec-bzimage64.c
>>> +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/kexec-bzimage64.c
>>> @@ -498,7 +498,10 @@ static void *bzImage64_load(struct kimage *image, char *kernel,
>>> kbuf.bufsz = kernel_len - kern16_size;
>>> kbuf.memsz = PAGE_ALIGN(header->init_size);
>>> kbuf.buf_align = header->kernel_alignment;
>>> - kbuf.buf_min = MIN_KERNEL_LOAD_ADDR;
>>> + if (header->pref_address < MIN_KERNEL_LOAD_ADDR)
>>> + kbuf.buf_min = MIN_KERNEL_LOAD_ADDR;
>>> + else
>>> + kbuf.buf_min = header->pref_address;
>>> kbuf.mem = KEXEC_BUF_MEM_UNKNOWN;
>>> ret = kexec_add_buffer(&kbuf);
>>> if (ret)
>>
>> Comment, please.
>>
>> It isn't clear from this hunk why or how this fixes the bug. How does
>> this manage to avoid clobbering reserved areas?
>
> When allocated above pref_address, the kernel will not relocate itself
> to an area that potentially overlaps with reserved memory. I'll add a
> comment.
Sounds good.
> Not sure what the etiquette is on immediately sending a patch v2, or
> waiting for more comments. I'll err on waiting on a couple more
> comments before sending v2. Thanks for the review
Please wait another few days.
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* Re: [PATCH] kexec: allocate kernel above bzImage's pref_address
2023-12-15 21:17 ` Dave Hansen
2023-12-15 21:38 ` Chris Koch
@ 2023-12-15 23:08 ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-12-15 23:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: H. Peter Anvin @ 2023-12-15 23:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dave Hansen, Chris Koch, Jonathan Corbet, Thomas Gleixner,
Ingo Molnar, Borislav Petkov, Dave Hansen, linux-doc, x86,
linux-kernel
Cc: Cloud Hsu
On December 15, 2023 1:17:00 PM PST, Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com> wrote:
>On 12/15/23 11:05, Chris Koch wrote:
>> A relocatable kernel will relocate itself to pref_address if it is
>> loaded below pref_address. This means a booted kernel may be relocating
>> itself to an area with reserved memory on modern systems, potentially
>> clobbering arbitrary data that may be important to the system.
>>
>> This is often the case, as the default value of PHYSICAL_START is
>> 0x1000000 and kernels are typically loaded at 0x100000 or above by
>> bootloaders like iPXE or kexec. GRUB behaves like this patch does.
>>
>> Also fixes the documentation around pref_address and PHYSICAL_START to
>> be accurate.
>
>Are you reporting a bug and is this a bug fix? It's not super clear
>from the changelog.
>
>
>> diff --git a/Documentation/arch/x86/boot.rst b/Documentation/arch/x86/boot.rst
>> index 22cc7a040dae..49bea8986620 100644
>> --- a/Documentation/arch/x86/boot.rst
>> +++ b/Documentation/arch/x86/boot.rst
>> @@ -878,7 +878,8 @@ Protocol: 2.10+
>> address if possible.
>>
>> A non-relocatable kernel will unconditionally move itself and to run
>> - at this address.
>> + at this address. A relocatable kernel will move itself to this address if it
>> + loaded below this address.
>
>I think we should avoid saying the same things over and over again in
>different spots.
>
>Here, it doesn't really help to enumerate the different interpretations
>of 'pref_address'. All that matters is that the bootloader can avoid
>the overhead of a later copy if it can place the kernel at
>'pref_address'. The exact reasons that various kernels might decide to
>relocate are unimportant here.
>
>> ============ =======
>> Field name: init_size
>> diff --git a/arch/x86/Kconfig b/arch/x86/Kconfig
>> index 3762f41bb092..1370f43328d7 100644
>> --- a/arch/x86/Kconfig
>> +++ b/arch/x86/Kconfig
>> @@ -2109,11 +2109,11 @@ config PHYSICAL_START
>> help
>> This gives the physical address where the kernel is loaded.
>>
>> - If kernel is a not relocatable (CONFIG_RELOCATABLE=n) then
>> - bzImage will decompress itself to above physical address and
>> - run from there. Otherwise, bzImage will run from the address where
>> - it has been loaded by the boot loader and will ignore above physical
>> - address.
>> + If the kernel is not relocatable (CONFIG_RELOCATABLE=n) then bzImage
>> + will decompress itself to above physical address and run from there.
>> + Otherwise, bzImage will run from the address where it has been loaded
>> + by the boot loader. The only exception is if it is loaded below the
>> + above physical address, in which case it will relocate itself there.
>
>I kinda dislike how this is written. It's written almost like code
>where you're spelling out the conditions. I prefer something much
>higher-level.
>
> This gives a minimum physical address at which the kernel can be
> loaded.
>
> CONFIG_RELOCATABLE=n kernels will be decompressed to and must
> run at PHYSICAL_START exactly.
>
> CONFIG_RELOCATABLE=y kernels can run at any address above
> PHYSICAL_START. If a kernel is loaded below PHYSICAL_START, it
> will relocate itself to PHYSICAL_START.
>
>> In normal kdump cases one does not have to set/change this option
>> as now bzImage can be compiled as a completely relocatable image
>> diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/kexec-bzimage64.c b/arch/x86/kernel/kexec-bzimage64.c
>> index a61c12c01270..5dcd232d58bf 100644
>> --- a/arch/x86/kernel/kexec-bzimage64.c
>> +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/kexec-bzimage64.c
>> @@ -498,7 +498,10 @@ static void *bzImage64_load(struct kimage *image, char *kernel,
>> kbuf.bufsz = kernel_len - kern16_size;
>> kbuf.memsz = PAGE_ALIGN(header->init_size);
>> kbuf.buf_align = header->kernel_alignment;
>> - kbuf.buf_min = MIN_KERNEL_LOAD_ADDR;
>> + if (header->pref_address < MIN_KERNEL_LOAD_ADDR)
>> + kbuf.buf_min = MIN_KERNEL_LOAD_ADDR;
>> + else
>> + kbuf.buf_min = header->pref_address;
>> kbuf.mem = KEXEC_BUF_MEM_UNKNOWN;
>> ret = kexec_add_buffer(&kbuf);
>> if (ret)
>
>Comment, please.
>
>It isn't clear from this hunk why or how this fixes the bug. How does
>this manage to avoid clobbering reserved areas?
It is a bug and a bug fix.
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* Re: [PATCH] kexec: allocate kernel above bzImage's pref_address
2023-12-15 21:17 ` Dave Hansen
2023-12-15 21:38 ` Chris Koch
2023-12-15 23:08 ` H. Peter Anvin
@ 2023-12-15 23:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: H. Peter Anvin @ 2023-12-15 23:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dave Hansen, Chris Koch, Jonathan Corbet, Thomas Gleixner,
Ingo Molnar, Borislav Petkov, Dave Hansen, linux-doc, x86,
linux-kernel
Cc: Cloud Hsu
On December 15, 2023 1:17:00 PM PST, Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com> wrote:
>On 12/15/23 11:05, Chris Koch wrote:
>> A relocatable kernel will relocate itself to pref_address if it is
>> loaded below pref_address. This means a booted kernel may be relocating
>> itself to an area with reserved memory on modern systems, potentially
>> clobbering arbitrary data that may be important to the system.
>>
>> This is often the case, as the default value of PHYSICAL_START is
>> 0x1000000 and kernels are typically loaded at 0x100000 or above by
>> bootloaders like iPXE or kexec. GRUB behaves like this patch does.
>>
>> Also fixes the documentation around pref_address and PHYSICAL_START to
>> be accurate.
>
>Are you reporting a bug and is this a bug fix? It's not super clear
>from the changelog.
>
>
>> diff --git a/Documentation/arch/x86/boot.rst b/Documentation/arch/x86/boot.rst
>> index 22cc7a040dae..49bea8986620 100644
>> --- a/Documentation/arch/x86/boot.rst
>> +++ b/Documentation/arch/x86/boot.rst
>> @@ -878,7 +878,8 @@ Protocol: 2.10+
>> address if possible.
>>
>> A non-relocatable kernel will unconditionally move itself and to run
>> - at this address.
>> + at this address. A relocatable kernel will move itself to this address if it
>> + loaded below this address.
>
>I think we should avoid saying the same things over and over again in
>different spots.
>
>Here, it doesn't really help to enumerate the different interpretations
>of 'pref_address'. All that matters is that the bootloader can avoid
>the overhead of a later copy if it can place the kernel at
>'pref_address'. The exact reasons that various kernels might decide to
>relocate are unimportant here.
>
>> ============ =======
>> Field name: init_size
>> diff --git a/arch/x86/Kconfig b/arch/x86/Kconfig
>> index 3762f41bb092..1370f43328d7 100644
>> --- a/arch/x86/Kconfig
>> +++ b/arch/x86/Kconfig
>> @@ -2109,11 +2109,11 @@ config PHYSICAL_START
>> help
>> This gives the physical address where the kernel is loaded.
>>
>> - If kernel is a not relocatable (CONFIG_RELOCATABLE=n) then
>> - bzImage will decompress itself to above physical address and
>> - run from there. Otherwise, bzImage will run from the address where
>> - it has been loaded by the boot loader and will ignore above physical
>> - address.
>> + If the kernel is not relocatable (CONFIG_RELOCATABLE=n) then bzImage
>> + will decompress itself to above physical address and run from there.
>> + Otherwise, bzImage will run from the address where it has been loaded
>> + by the boot loader. The only exception is if it is loaded below the
>> + above physical address, in which case it will relocate itself there.
>
>I kinda dislike how this is written. It's written almost like code
>where you're spelling out the conditions. I prefer something much
>higher-level.
>
> This gives a minimum physical address at which the kernel can be
> loaded.
>
> CONFIG_RELOCATABLE=n kernels will be decompressed to and must
> run at PHYSICAL_START exactly.
>
> CONFIG_RELOCATABLE=y kernels can run at any address above
> PHYSICAL_START. If a kernel is loaded below PHYSICAL_START, it
> will relocate itself to PHYSICAL_START.
>
>> In normal kdump cases one does not have to set/change this option
>> as now bzImage can be compiled as a completely relocatable image
>> diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/kexec-bzimage64.c b/arch/x86/kernel/kexec-bzimage64.c
>> index a61c12c01270..5dcd232d58bf 100644
>> --- a/arch/x86/kernel/kexec-bzimage64.c
>> +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/kexec-bzimage64.c
>> @@ -498,7 +498,10 @@ static void *bzImage64_load(struct kimage *image, char *kernel,
>> kbuf.bufsz = kernel_len - kern16_size;
>> kbuf.memsz = PAGE_ALIGN(header->init_size);
>> kbuf.buf_align = header->kernel_alignment;
>> - kbuf.buf_min = MIN_KERNEL_LOAD_ADDR;
>> + if (header->pref_address < MIN_KERNEL_LOAD_ADDR)
>> + kbuf.buf_min = MIN_KERNEL_LOAD_ADDR;
>> + else
>> + kbuf.buf_min = header->pref_address;
>> kbuf.mem = KEXEC_BUF_MEM_UNKNOWN;
>> ret = kexec_add_buffer(&kbuf);
>> if (ret)
>
>Comment, please.
>
>It isn't clear from this hunk why or how this fixes the bug. How does
>this manage to avoid clobbering reserved areas?
Also, this really should go to stable, so please add the appropriate Cc:.
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