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From: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>
To: "Ekansh Gupta" <ekansh.gupta@oss.qualcomm.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/15] accel/qda: Qualcomm DSP Accelerator driver
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2026 16:19:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d447e010-218f-4e62-8afa-87feb558c105@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4000bb8b-20a7-4ab0-9330-49395022e78f@oss.qualcomm.com>

On 19/08/2026 15:32, Ekansh Gupta wrote:
> On 19-08-2026 00:51, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>> On 18/08/2026 21:13, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>>> On 17/08/2026 06:47, Ekansh Gupta wrote:
>>>> This patch series introduces the Qualcomm DSP Accelerator (QDA) driver,
>>>> a DRM-based accelerator driver for Qualcomm DSPs. The driver provides a
>>>> standardized interface for offloading computational tasks to DSPs found
>>>> on Qualcomm SoCs, supporting all DSP domains.
>>>>
>>>> The QDA driver implements the FastRPC protocol over the DRM accel
>>>> subsystem. It uses the same device-tree node structure as the existing
>>>> fastrpc driver in drivers/misc/. The approach for binding the QDA driver
>>>> to device-tree nodes while coexisting with the fastrpc driver is an open
>>>> item described below.
>>>
>>> No. Grow/replace/improve existing driver instead of coming with a duplicate.
>>>
>>> That's a standard upstream requirement, basically given on every
>>> upstreaming guide.
>>>
>>> Please watch old talk from Greg - "I Don’t Want Your Code!".
>>>
>>>>
>>>> v1: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260519-qda-series-v1-0-b2d984c297f8@oss.qualcomm.com/
>>>> RFC: https://lore.kernel.org/dri-devel/20260224-qda-firstpost-v1-0-fe46a9c1a046@oss.qualcomm.com/T/
>>>>
>>>> Changes since v1
>>>> ================
>>>>
>>>> The v1 review raised two architectural objections and one correctness
>>>> issue; all three are resolved in v2:
>>>>
>>>> * Christian König (dma-buf maintainer) pointed out that the imported-
>>>>   buffer path silently assumed the IOMMU maps every buffer as a single
>>>>   contiguous range, which is not guaranteed. v2 walks the scatterlist
>>>>   and cleanly rejects non-contiguous imports; contiguous imports (e.g.
>>>>   CMA DMA-buf heap) are accepted. (patch 11)
>>>>
>>>> * Dmitry Baryshkov objected to three different buffer-passing formats
>>>>   in the invoke IOCTL (DMA-BUF fd, direct/inline, DMA handle). v2
>>>>   passes only GEM handles; userspace imports any fd to a GEM handle
>>>>   with DRM_IOCTL_PRIME_FD_TO_HANDLE before invoking. Packing and
>>>>   overlap handling are left to userspace. (patch 12)
>>>>
>>>> * The memory manager (patch 07) used a fixed 16-entry array without
>>>>   justification and leaked the device descriptor on teardown. v2
>>>>   allocates the array from the DT context-bank count (as Dmitry
>>>>   suggested) and frees it correctly.
>>>>
>>>> User-space staging branch
>>>> =========================
>>>> https://github.com/qualcomm/fastrpc/tree/accel/staging
>>>>
>>>> Key Features
>>>> ============
>>>>
>>>> * Standard DRM accelerator interface via /dev/accel/accelN
>>>> * GEM-based buffer management with DMA-BUF import (PRIME)
>>>> * IOMMU-based memory isolation using per-process context banks
>>>> * FastRPC protocol implementation for DSP communication
>>>> * RPMsg transport layer for reliable message passing
>>>> * Support for all DSP domains (ADSP, CDSP, SDSP, GDSP)
>>>> * DRM IOCTL interface for DSP session management, buffer allocation,
>>>>   and remote procedure invocation
>>>>
>>>> Architecture
>>>> ============
>>>>
>>>> 1. DRM Accelerator Framework Integration
>>>>    The driver registers as a DRM accel device, exposing a standard
>>>>    /dev/accel/accelN character device node. This provides established
>>>>    DRM infrastructure for device management, file operations, and
>>>>    IOCTL dispatch.
>>>>
>>>> 2. Memory Management
>>>>    Buffers are managed as GEM objects with PRIME support for DMA-BUF
>>>>    import. This enables buffer sharing with other DRM drivers (GPU,
>>>>    camera, video) using standard kernel mechanisms. Only contiguous
>>>>    imports are accepted; the driver verifies contiguity at import time
>>>>    rather than assuming it.
>>>>
>>>> 3. IOMMU Context Bank Management
>>>>    IOMMU context banks (CBs) are represented as proper struct device
>>>>    instances on a custom virtual bus (qda-compute-cb). Each CB device
>>>>    is registered with the IOMMU subsystem and receives its own IOMMU
>>>>    domain, enabling per-session address space isolation. The custom
>>>>    bus was introduced because IOMMU context banks are synthetic
>>>>    constructs — not real platform devices — and to ensure CB device
>>>>    lifetime is strictly subordinate to the parent QDA device.
>>>>    See also: https://lore.kernel.org/all/245d602f-3037-4ae3-9af9-d98f37258aae@oss.qualcomm.com/
>>>>
>>>> 4. Memory Manager Architecture
>>>>    The memory manager maintains a registry of IOMMU devices in an
>>>>    array sized to the number of context banks described in the device
>>>>    tree, and coordinates per-process device assignment with reference-
>>>>    counted lifetime management. The DMA-coherent backend allocates
>>>>    buffers with SID-prefixed DMA addresses for DSP firmware
>>>>    compatibility.
>>>>
>>>> 5. Transport Layer
>>>>    RPMsg communication is handled in a dedicated transport layer
>>>>    (qda_rpmsg.c), separate from the core DRM driver logic.
>>>>
>>>> 6. Code Organization
>>>>    The driver is organized across multiple files (~4800 lines total):
>>>>    * qda_drv.c:            Core driver and DRM integration
>>>>    * qda_rpmsg.c:          RPMsg transport layer
>>>>    * qda_cb.c:             Context bank device management
>>>>    * qda_compute_bus.c:    Custom virtual bus for CB devices
>>>>    * qda_gem.c:            GEM object management
>>>>    * qda_prime.c:          DMA-BUF import (PRIME)
>>>>    * qda_memory_manager.c: IOMMU device registry and allocation
>>>>    * qda_memory_dma.c:     DMA-coherent allocation backend
>>>>    * qda_fastrpc.c:        FastRPC protocol implementation
>>>>    * qda_ioctl.c:          IOCTL dispatch
>>>>
>>>> 7. UAPI Design
>>>>    The driver exposes DRM-style IOCTLs defined in
>>>>    include/uapi/drm/qda_accel.h, following DRM UAPI conventions
>>>>    (__u32/__u64 types, C++ guard, GPL-2.0-only WITH Linux-syscall-note).
>>>>    Buffer arguments are identified by GEM handles; the driver never
>>>>    accepts DMA-BUF fds directly in any IOCTL.
>>>>
>>>> Patch Series Organization
>>>> ==========================
>>>>
>>>> Patch 01:      MAINTAINERS entry
>>>> Patch 02:      Driver documentation (Documentation/accel/qda/)
>>>> Patches 03-04: Core driver skeleton and compute bus
>>>> Patch 05:      iommu: Register qda-compute-cb bus with IOMMU subsystem
>>>> Patches 06-07: CB device enumeration and memory manager
>>>> Patch 08:      QUERY IOCTL and UAPI header
>>>> Patches 09-11: GEM buffer management and PRIME import
>>>> Patches 12-15: FastRPC protocol (invoke, session create/release,
>>>>                map/unmap)
>>>>
>>>> Open Items
>>>> ===========
>>>>
>>>> 1. Device-Tree Compatible String
>>>>    The QDA driver uses the same device-tree node structure and
>>>>    properties as the existing fastrpc driver in drivers/misc/. A
>>>>    mechanism is needed to allow the QDA driver to bind to its device
>>>>    node independently of the fastrpc driver.
>>>>
>>>>    The intended coexistence model is: platforms that require the
>>>>    complete fastrpc feature set continue to use "qcom,fastrpc"; new
>>>>    platforms where QDA's feature set is sufficient use a QDA-specific
>>>>    compatible string. New feature development is directed toward QDA.
>>>>
>>>>    The options under consideration are:
>>>>
>>>>    a) Add a new "qcom,qda" compatible string to the existing
>>>>       qcom,fastrpc.yaml binding, since the DT node structure and
>>>>       properties are identical.
>>> No
>>>
>>>>
>>>>    b) Introduce a separate qcom,qda.yaml binding that references or
>>>>       inherits the fastrpc binding properties.
>>>
>>> No
>>>
>>>>
>>>>    Seeking guidance from DT binding maintainers on the preferred
>>>>    approach.
>>>
>>> Grow existing driver. You do not get new driver, you do not get new
>>> bindings.
>>>
>>
>> And this was already questioned at v1 (the true v1, not v1+1) but you
>> ignored the comment.
> The discussion were around compat layers in v1 patch (which is not yet
> concluded) and on whether this driver is going to be an alternative or a

No, you got comment, from Trilok I think, asking what is the plan in
respect of existing fastrpc driver.


Best regards,
Krzysztof

  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-19 14:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-17  4:47 [PATCH v2 00/15] accel/qda: Qualcomm DSP Accelerator driver Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-17  4:47 ` [PATCH v2 01/15] MAINTAINERS: Add entry for Qualcomm DSP Accelerator (QDA) driver Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-18 19:22   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-08-19 13:05     ` Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-19 14:16       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-08-17  4:47 ` [PATCH v2 02/15] accel/qda: Add QDA driver documentation Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-17  4:47 ` [PATCH v2 03/15] accel/qda: Add initial QDA DRM accelerator driver Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-18 19:10   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-08-19 13:17     ` Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-19 14:18       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-08-17  4:47 ` [PATCH v2 04/15] accel/qda: Add compute bus for QDA context banks Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-17  4:47 ` [PATCH v2 05/15] iommu: Add QDA compute context bank bus to iommu_buses Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-17  7:01   ` Joerg Roedel (AMD)
2026-08-17 13:44   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-18  5:10     ` Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-18 13:07       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-17  4:47 ` [PATCH v2 06/15] accel/qda: Create compute context bank devices on QDA compute bus Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-17  4:47 ` [PATCH v2 07/15] accel/qda: Add memory manager for CB devices Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-17  6:52   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-08-18  4:33     ` Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-18  4:44       ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-08-17  4:47 ` [PATCH v2 08/15] accel/qda: Add QUERY IOCTL and QDA UAPI header Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-17  6:58   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-08-18  4:40     ` Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-18  4:45       ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-08-17  4:47 ` [PATCH v2 09/15] accel/qda: Add DMA-backed GEM objects and memory manager integration Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-18  3:42   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-08-18  5:51     ` Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-18  3:48   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-08-18  5:52     ` Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-17  4:47 ` [PATCH v2 10/15] accel/qda: Add GEM_CREATE and GEM_MMAP_OFFSET IOCTLs Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-18  3:49   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-08-18  5:54     ` Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-17  4:47 ` [PATCH v2 11/15] accel/qda: Add PRIME DMA-BUF import support Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-18  3:55   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-08-18  6:25     ` Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-17  4:47 ` [PATCH v2 12/15] accel/qda: Add FastRPC invocation support Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-18  4:19   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-08-17  4:47 ` [PATCH v2 13/15] accel/qda: Add DSP process creation and release Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-17  4:47 ` [PATCH v2 14/15] accel/qda: Add remote memory mapping to DSP address space Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-18 19:13 ` [PATCH v2 00/15] accel/qda: Qualcomm DSP Accelerator driver Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-08-18 19:21   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-08-19 13:32     ` Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-19 14:19       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski [this message]
2026-08-19 13:26   ` Ekansh Gupta
2026-08-19 14:21     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-08-19 14:38       ` Rob Clark
2026-08-19 14:40         ` Konrad Dybcio
2026-08-19 14:43         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-08-19 14:49           ` Rob Clark
2026-08-19 14:53             ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-08-19 15:23               ` Rob Clark
2026-08-19 15:27                 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-08-19 15:48                   ` Rob Clark
2026-08-18 19:18 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-08-19 13:23   ` Ekansh Gupta

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