From: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
To: Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>,
ryabinin.a.a@gmail.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
corbet@lwn.net
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/2] kasan: hw_tags: Add option to tag only at allocation time
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2026 14:48:03 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <dbc2800f-7880-486f-831c-ec9b6cedc005@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260612044425.763060-1-dev.jain@arm.com>
On 12/06/2026 05:44, Dev Jain wrote:
> Introduce a boot option to tag only at allocation time of the objects. This
> reduces KASAN MTE overhead, the tradeoff being reduced ability of
> catching bugs.
>
> Now, when a memory object will be freed, it will retain the random tag it
> had at allocation time. This compromises on catching UAF bugs, till the
> time the object is not reallocated, at which point it will have a new
> random tag.
>
> Hence, not catching "use-after-free-before-reallocation" and not catching
> "double-free" will be the compromise for reduced KASAN overhead.
Does standard KASAN with HW_TAGS really detect double-free? How does it do that?
I could imagine it testing the tags of memory being freed to see if they are set
to the poison tag, but that would lead to false positives for the GFP_SKIP_KASAN
case, surely?
If I'm right, then the only downgrade this new mode causes is that if
freed-but-not-yet-reallocated memory is accessed via it's dangling pointer, then
that bad access is not detected. I think that would be benign in all the cases I
can think of, so while it would be a problem for a debugging use case, it would
unlikely be a problem for security enforcement?
Thanks,
Ryan
>
> This is an RFC because we are not clear about the performance benefit.
>
> Android folks, please help with testing!
>
> ---
> Applies on Linus master (9716c086c8e8).
>
> Dev Jain (2):
> kasan: hw_tags: Use KASAN_PAGE_REDZONE for vmalloc redzoning
> kasan: hw_tags: Add boot option to elide free time poisoning
>
> Documentation/dev-tools/kasan.rst | 4 +++
> mm/kasan/hw_tags.c | 45 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--
> mm/kasan/kasan.h | 23 +++++++++++++++-
> 3 files changed, 69 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>
prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-06-18 13:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-12 4:44 [RFC PATCH 0/2] kasan: hw_tags: Add option to tag only at allocation time Dev Jain
2026-06-12 4:44 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] kasan: hw_tags: Use KASAN_PAGE_REDZONE for vmalloc redzoning Dev Jain
2026-06-12 4:44 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] kasan: hw_tags: Add boot option to elide free time poisoning Dev Jain
2026-06-13 0:23 ` Isaac Manjarres
2026-06-13 0:16 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] kasan: hw_tags: Add option to tag only at allocation time Isaac Manjarres
2026-06-18 13:35 ` Harry Yoo
2026-06-18 14:05 ` Harry Yoo
2026-06-18 13:48 ` Ryan Roberts [this message]
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