* [PATCH v2 0/5] KVM: PPC: Handle CPU compatibility mode for nested guests
@ 2026-05-13 10:07 Amit Machhiwal
2026-05-13 10:07 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] KVM: PPC: Document KVM_PPC_GET_COMPAT_CAPS ioctl Amit Machhiwal
2026-05-14 3:19 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] KVM: PPC: Handle CPU compatibility mode for nested guests Ritesh Harjani
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From: Amit Machhiwal @ 2026-05-13 10:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linuxppc-dev, Madhavan Srinivasan
Cc: Amit Machhiwal, Vaibhav Jain, Paolo Bonzini, Nicholas Piggin,
Michael Ellerman, Christophe Leroy (CS GROUP), Jonathan Corbet,
Shuah Khan, kvm, linux-kernel, linux-doc
On POWER systems, newer processor generations can operate in compatibility
modes corresponding to earlier generations (e.g., a Power11 system running
in Power10 compatibility mode). In such cases, the effective CPU level
exposed to guests differs from the physical processor generation.
This creates a problem for nested virtualization. When booting a nested KVM
guest (L2) inside a host KVM guest (L1) running in a compatibility mode,
userspace (e.g., QEMU) may derive the CPU model from the raw hardware PVR
and attempt to configure the nested guest accordingly. However, the L1
partition is constrained by the compatibility level negotiated with the
hypervisor (L0), and requests exceeding that level are rejected, leading to
guest boot failures such as:
KVM-NESTEDv2: couldn't set guest wide elements
This series addresses the issue in two steps:
1. Detect and reject invalid compatibility requests early in KVM to avoid
late failures.
2. Provide a mechanism for userspace to query the effective CPU
compatibility modes supported by the host, so it can select an
appropriate CPU model for nested guests.
To achieve this, the series introduces a new KVM capability and ioctl
(KVM_CAP_PPC_COMPAT_CAPS / KVM_PPC_GET_COMPAT_CAPS) that expose the
compatibility modes supported by the host.
The implementation supports both:
- PowerVM (nested API v2), where compatibility information is obtained
via the H_GUEST_GET_CAPABILITIES hypercall.
- PowerNV (nested API v1), where compatibility is derived from the device
tree ("cpu-version") representing the effective processor compatibility
level.
This allows userspace (e.g., QEMU) to select a CPU model consistent with
the host compatibility mode, avoiding mismatches and enabling successful
nested guest boot.
Changes in v2:
- Squashed patches 2 and 3 from v1 (capability introduction and ioctl
wiring) into a single patch for better logical grouping
- Changed kvm_ppc_compat_caps.flags from __u32 to __u64 for consistency
and future extensibility
- Addressed other review comments
- Improved commit messages with clearer explanations of the changes
Patch summary:
[1/5] Validate arch_compat against host compatibility mode
[2/5] Introduce KVM_CAP_PPC_COMPAT_CAPS and wire up ioctl
[3/5] Implement capability retrieval for PowerVM (API v2)
[4/5] Add PowerNV support (API v1)
[5/5] Document the new ioctl
Tested on:
- Power11 pSeries LPAR in Power10 compatibility mode (nested API v2)
- Power10 PowerNV system (and QEMU TCG PowerNV 11) with nested
virtualization (API v1) with various combinations of KVM L1/L2 guests
in various supported compatibility modes.
With this series, nested guests boot successfully in configurations where
they previously failed due to compatibility mismatches.
Related QEMU series:
A corresponding QEMU series adds support for querying and using these
compatibility capabilities when configuring nested KVM guests:
https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260502140021.69712-1-amachhiw@linux.ibm.com/
v1: https://lore.kernel.org/linuxppc-dev/20260430054906.94431-1-amachhiw@linux.ibm.com/
Amit Machhiwal (5):
KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: Validate arch_compat against host compatibility
mode
KVM: PPC: Introduce KVM_CAP_PPC_COMPAT_CAPS and wire up ioctl
KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: Implement compat CPU capability retrieval for KVM
on PowerVM
KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: Add support for compat CPU capabilities for KVM
on PowerNV
KVM: PPC: Document KVM_PPC_GET_COMPAT_CAPS ioctl
Documentation/virt/kvm/api.rst | 35 ++++++++++++++++
arch/powerpc/include/asm/kvm_ppc.h | 1 +
arch/powerpc/include/uapi/asm/kvm.h | 6 +++
arch/powerpc/kvm/book3s_hv.c | 63 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
arch/powerpc/kvm/powerpc.c | 21 ++++++++++
include/uapi/linux/kvm.h | 4 ++
6 files changed, 130 insertions(+)
base-commit: 1d5dcaa3bd65f2e8c9baa14a393d3a2dc5db7524
--
2.50.1 (Apple Git-155)
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread* [PATCH v2 5/5] KVM: PPC: Document KVM_PPC_GET_COMPAT_CAPS ioctl 2026-05-13 10:07 [PATCH v2 0/5] KVM: PPC: Handle CPU compatibility mode for nested guests Amit Machhiwal @ 2026-05-13 10:07 ` Amit Machhiwal 2026-05-14 3:19 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] KVM: PPC: Handle CPU compatibility mode for nested guests Ritesh Harjani 1 sibling, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread From: Amit Machhiwal @ 2026-05-13 10:07 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linuxppc-dev, Madhavan Srinivasan Cc: Amit Machhiwal, Vaibhav Jain, Paolo Bonzini, Jonathan Corbet, Shuah Khan, kvm, linux-kernel, linux-doc Add documentation for the KVM_PPC_GET_COMPAT_CAPS ioctl to the KVM API documentation. The ioctl exposes host processor compatibility modes supported for nested KVM guests on PowerPC systems. Signed-off-by: Amit Machhiwal <amachhiw@linux.ibm.com> --- Documentation/virt/kvm/api.rst | 35 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 35 insertions(+) diff --git a/Documentation/virt/kvm/api.rst b/Documentation/virt/kvm/api.rst index 52bbbb553ce1..1b533f674a09 100644 --- a/Documentation/virt/kvm/api.rst +++ b/Documentation/virt/kvm/api.rst @@ -6555,6 +6555,41 @@ KVM_S390_KEYOP_SSKE .. _kvm_run: +4.145 KVM_PPC_GET_COMPAT_CAPS +----------------------------- +:Capability: KVM_CAP_PPC_COMPAT_CAPS +:Architectures: powerpc +:Type: vm ioctl +:Parameters: struct kvm_ppc_compat_caps (out) +:Returns: + 0 on successful completion, + -EFAULT if ``struct kvm_ppc_compat_caps`` cannot be written + +IBM POWER system server-based processors provide a compatibility mode feature +where an Nth generation processor can operate in modes consistent with earlier +generations such as (N-1) and (N-2). + +This ioctl provides userspace with information about the CPU compatibility modes +supported by the current host processor for booting the nested KVM guests on +PowerNV (KVM nested APIv1) and PowerVM (KVM nested APIv2) platforms. + +:: + + struct kvm_ppc_compat_caps { + __u64 flags; /* Reserved for future use */ + __u64 compat_capabilities; /* Capabilities supported by the host */ + }; + +The ``compat_capabilities`` bit field describes the processor compatibility +modes supported by the host. For example, the following bits indicate support +for specific processor modes. + +:: + +H_GUEST_CAP_POWER9 (bit 1): KVM guests can run in Power9 processor mode +H_GUEST_CAP_POWER10 (bit 2): KVM guests can run in Power10 processor mode +H_GUEST_CAP_POWER11 (bit 3): KVM guests can run in Power11 processor mode + 5. The kvm_run structure ======================== -- 2.50.1 (Apple Git-155) ^ permalink raw reply related [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH v2 0/5] KVM: PPC: Handle CPU compatibility mode for nested guests 2026-05-13 10:07 [PATCH v2 0/5] KVM: PPC: Handle CPU compatibility mode for nested guests Amit Machhiwal 2026-05-13 10:07 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] KVM: PPC: Document KVM_PPC_GET_COMPAT_CAPS ioctl Amit Machhiwal @ 2026-05-14 3:19 ` Ritesh Harjani 2026-05-14 10:04 ` Amit Machhiwal 1 sibling, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: Ritesh Harjani @ 2026-05-14 3:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Amit Machhiwal, linuxppc-dev, Madhavan Srinivasan Cc: Amit Machhiwal, Vaibhav Jain, Paolo Bonzini, Nicholas Piggin, Michael Ellerman, Christophe Leroy (CS GROUP), Jonathan Corbet, Shuah Khan, kvm, linux-kernel, linux-doc Hi Amit, Amit Machhiwal <amachhiw@linux.ibm.com> writes: > On POWER systems, newer processor generations can operate in compatibility > modes corresponding to earlier generations (e.g., a Power11 system running > in Power10 compatibility mode). In such cases, the effective CPU level > exposed to guests differs from the physical processor generation. > > This creates a problem for nested virtualization. When booting a nested KVM > guest (L2) inside a host KVM guest (L1) running in a compatibility mode, > userspace (e.g., QEMU) may derive the CPU model from the raw hardware PVR > and attempt to configure the nested guest accordingly. However, the L1 > partition is constrained by the compatibility level negotiated with the > hypervisor (L0), and requests exceeding that level are rejected, leading to > guest boot failures such as: > > KVM-NESTEDv2: couldn't set guest wide elements > > This series addresses the issue in two steps: > > 1. Detect and reject invalid compatibility requests early in KVM to avoid > late failures. > > 2. Provide a mechanism for userspace to query the effective CPU > compatibility modes supported by the host, so it can select an > appropriate CPU model for nested guests. > Do we really need to add a uapi change for this? Tools like Qemu can read the device tree info of the host, isn't it? > To achieve this, the series introduces a new KVM capability and ioctl > (KVM_CAP_PPC_COMPAT_CAPS / KVM_PPC_GET_COMPAT_CAPS) that expose the > compatibility modes supported by the host. > > The implementation supports both: > > - PowerVM (nested API v2), where compatibility information is obtained > via the H_GUEST_GET_CAPABILITIES hypercall. > - PowerNV (nested API v1), where compatibility is derived from the device > tree ("cpu-version") representing the effective processor compatibility > level. See there you go, for PowerNV if this info is provided in the device tree, then Qemu could as well just read that info, no? ... yup, kvmppc_read_int_dt() can do that I guess. So, my request is, can we look into this to see, if there is a possible alternative to this? maybe we already have a mechanism which Qemu could use to get this info already? btw - I haven't given a full read of the patch series, but reading the cover letter, I felt we should atleast add this info to the cover letter on, why a uapi change is really needed here, why can't the existing alternatives work for us. -ritesh > > This allows userspace (e.g., QEMU) to select a CPU model consistent with > the host compatibility mode, avoiding mismatches and enabling successful > nested guest boot. > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH v2 0/5] KVM: PPC: Handle CPU compatibility mode for nested guests 2026-05-14 3:19 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] KVM: PPC: Handle CPU compatibility mode for nested guests Ritesh Harjani @ 2026-05-14 10:04 ` Amit Machhiwal 0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread From: Amit Machhiwal @ 2026-05-14 10:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ritesh Harjani Cc: Amit Machhiwal, linuxppc-dev, Madhavan Srinivasan, Vaibhav Jain, Paolo Bonzini, Nicholas Piggin, Michael Ellerman, Christophe Leroy (CS GROUP), Jonathan Corbet, Shuah Khan, kvm, linux-kernel, linux-doc Hi Ritesh, Thanks for taking a look at this series. Please find my comment inline below: On 2026/05/14 08:49 AM, Ritesh Harjani wrote: > > Hi Amit, > > Amit Machhiwal <amachhiw@linux.ibm.com> writes: > > > On POWER systems, newer processor generations can operate in compatibility > > modes corresponding to earlier generations (e.g., a Power11 system running > > in Power10 compatibility mode). In such cases, the effective CPU level > > exposed to guests differs from the physical processor generation. > > > > This creates a problem for nested virtualization. When booting a nested KVM > > guest (L2) inside a host KVM guest (L1) running in a compatibility mode, > > userspace (e.g., QEMU) may derive the CPU model from the raw hardware PVR > > and attempt to configure the nested guest accordingly. However, the L1 > > partition is constrained by the compatibility level negotiated with the > > hypervisor (L0), and requests exceeding that level are rejected, leading to > > guest boot failures such as: > > > > KVM-NESTEDv2: couldn't set guest wide elements > > > > This series addresses the issue in two steps: > > > > 1. Detect and reject invalid compatibility requests early in KVM to avoid > > late failures. > > > > 2. Provide a mechanism for userspace to query the effective CPU > > compatibility modes supported by the host, so it can select an > > appropriate CPU model for nested guests. > > > > Do we really need to add a uapi change for this? Tools like Qemu can > read the device tree info of the host, isn't it? While cpu-version is available in /proc/device-tree/cpus/<cpu#>/cpu-version on both L1 booted on PowerNV and PowerVM LPARs, I believe the UAPI change is still preferable for several reasons: 1. We would want to rely on the capabilities negotiated with pHYP (L0) in KVM on PowerVM case instead of device tree property. Also, the cpu-version property only depicts the current compat mode host (L1) is booted in but doesn't really point to what all compat modes are supported for the nested guest (L2). 2. procfs dependency: Not all systems run with procfs enabled (CONFIG_PROC_FS is optional). For example, minimal configurations (like buildroot) might disable it. The KVM ioctl works regardless of procfs availability since it accesses kernel data structures directly. 3. Kernel validation: The kernel validates and normalizes the compatibility information. For example, patch 1 adds validation logic that rejects invalid compatibility requests early. The ioctl ensures userspace gets validated, consistent data. 4. Abstraction & stability: While /proc/device-tree works today, it's an implementation detail. The UAPI provides a stable interface that won't break if the underlying mechanism changes. 5. Semantic clarity: KVM_PPC_GET_COMPAT_CAPS clearly expresses what compatibility modes can I use for KVM guests vs. parsing device tree which requires understanding the semantic meaning of cpu-version. > > > To achieve this, the series introduces a new KVM capability and ioctl > > (KVM_CAP_PPC_COMPAT_CAPS / KVM_PPC_GET_COMPAT_CAPS) that expose the > > compatibility modes supported by the host. > > > > The implementation supports both: > > > > - PowerVM (nested API v2), where compatibility information is obtained > > via the H_GUEST_GET_CAPABILITIES hypercall. > > - PowerNV (nested API v1), where compatibility is derived from the device > > tree ("cpu-version") representing the effective processor compatibility > > level. > > See there you go, for PowerNV if this info is provided in the device > tree, then Qemu could as well just read that info, no? > > ... yup, kvmppc_read_int_dt() can do that I guess. > > So, my request is, can we look into this to see, if there is a possible > alternative to this? maybe we already have a mechanism which Qemu could > use to get this info already? You're right that QEMU could read the device tree from procfs. We had discussed this approach internally as well. However, we believe the UAPI approach offers additional benefits and looks more robust and future proof as outlined above. > > btw - I haven't given a full read of the patch series, but reading the > cover letter, I felt we should atleast add this info to the cover > letter on, why a uapi change is really needed here, why can't the > existing alternatives work for us. I have described above why we did the UAPI change for the approach followed in this series. Could you please suggest what else can be added? Thanks, Amit > -ritesh > > > > > This allows userspace (e.g., QEMU) to select a CPU model consistent with > > the host compatibility mode, avoiding mismatches and enabling successful > > nested guest boot. > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
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