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From: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org>
To: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	Matthew Garrett <matthewg@nvidia.com>,
	keyrings@vger.kernel.org, linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org,
	rafael@kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-efi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/17] tpm: Define a kernel-owned TPM NV index that can't be modified by userland
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2026 17:15:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <avnMl7fD156F1fx4@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <asty4acE2B94t5q6@srcf.ucam.org>

On Sun, Oct 11, 2026 at 04:28:33AM -0700, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 11, 2026 at 12:27:58PM +0200, James Bottomley wrote:
> > On Sun, 2026-10-11 at 03:23 -0700, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > > Hmm. Well, that's irritating. Which year's XPS is this?
> > 
> > It's an XPS-13 9380 Core i7 ... circa 2019 I think.
> 
> Yes, that's definitely later than I hoped. Bother. I think this patchset 
> is probably still worthwhile because it does unblock us on at least some 
> machines, and the implementation is intended to be opaque (other than 
> the change in PCR 5 measurements, but we should still get log replay) 
> and can be replaced with something else if we want. The other approach 
> that springs to mind is tying this to having distros switch to a new 
> kernel signing key before enabling this and so having PCR 7 be 
> associated with the feature, but that sounds like an incredibly tedious 
> thing to get right in a reliable way.

What prevents blocking PCR 5 access from /dev/tpm*? If firmware already,
does it, this can only add defense-in-depth.

This feels way too obvious question to ask so I presume I'm missing
something.

Br, Jarkko

  reply	other threads:[~2026-11-15 15:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-08 13:20 [RFC] Make hibernation work with lockdown Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 01/17] tpm: Define a kernel-owned TPM NV index that can't be modified by userland Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 13:41   ` Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 16:24     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-08 16:23   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-09  8:33     ` Matthew Garrett
2026-10-10 21:36       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-08 17:06   ` Ilias Apalodimas
2026-10-10  9:22   ` James Bottomley
2026-10-10 21:26     ` Matthew Garrett
2026-10-11  6:04       ` James Bottomley
2026-10-11 10:23         ` Matthew Garrett
2026-10-11 10:27           ` James Bottomley
2026-10-11 11:28             ` Matthew Garrett
2026-11-15 15:15               ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]
2026-10-11  8:21       ` James Bottomley
2026-11-13  0:40   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-11-13  0:45     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-11-13  0:50       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 02/17] efi: Add a mechanism to modify TPM state depending on kernel security features Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 16:38   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 03/17] tpm: Allow tpm2_start_auth_session() to start an audit session Matthew Garrett
2026-11-13  2:17   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 04/17] tpm: Log commands executed in " Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 05/17] tpm: Add a kernel attestation key and signed audit digest retrieval Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 16:45   ` James Bottomley
2026-10-09  8:29     ` Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 06/17] tpm: Use TPM2_NV_ReadPublic to read NV index names Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 07/17] tpm: Add in-kernel support for reading NV indices Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 08/17] tpm: Add NV define, undefine and write helpers Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 09/17] tpm: Provision the kernel NV index at registration Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 10/17] tpm: Move the bounds-checked response reader to a header Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 11/17] tpm: Add kernel signing key creation with audited provenance Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 17:00   ` James Bottomley
2026-10-09  8:31     ` Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 12/17] tpm: Add signing with the kernel signing key Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 13/17] tpm: Add verification of kernel signing key provenance Matthew Garrett
2026-10-10  9:34   ` James Bottomley
2026-10-10 21:18     ` Matthew Garrett
2026-10-10  9:42   ` James Bottomley
2026-10-10 21:20     ` Matthew Garrett
2026-11-13  2:25   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 14/17] PM: hibernate: Add image digest and signature page infrastructure Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 15/17] PM: hibernate: Sign and verify images with a kernel-generated TPM key Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 16/17] PM: hibernate: Refuse to verify images with a virtual TPM Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 17/17] PM: hibernate: Allow hibernation under lockdown with signed images Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 16:53   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-09  8:31     ` Matthew Garrett
2026-10-10 21:29       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-08 15:56 ` [RFC] Make hibernation work with lockdown Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-23 15:28 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-23 19:13   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-31  3:01     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-11-07 22:34 ` Neal Gompa
2026-11-10  1:36 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-11-13  0:06   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-11-15 15:02 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-11-15 15:08   ` Jarkko Sakkinen

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