public inbox for linux-efi@vger.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka-kv7WeFo6aLtBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Matt Fleming <matt-mF/unelCI9GS6iBeEJttW/XRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Kweh,
	Hock Leong"
	<hock.leong.kweh-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Bryan O'Donoghue
	<pure.logic-SyKdqv6vbfZdzvEItQ6vdLNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>,
	Andy Shevchenko
	<andy.shevchenko-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Ard Biesheuvel
	<ard.biesheuvel-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-efi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-efi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List
	<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp-Gina5bIWoIWzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>,
	"Ong,
	Boon Leong"
	<boon.leong.ong-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	"Mok,
	Tze Siong"
	<tze.siong.mok-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] efi: Enhance capsule loader to support signed Quark images
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2017 13:20:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fb94de5b-e359-ab8d-bb9b-52efcad91bc5@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170228121255.GD28416-mF/unelCI9GS6iBeEJttW/XRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>

On 2017-02-28 13:12, Matt Fleming wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Feb, at 10:24:41AM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>
>> I just can re-express my frustration that this essential step hasn't
>> been started years ago by whoever designed the extension. Then I bet
>> there would have been constructive feedback on the interface BEFORE its
>> ugliness spread to broader use.
>>
>> Or is there a technical need, in general or on Quark, to have the
>> signature header right before the standard capsule *for the handover* to
>> the firmware? I mean, I would naively put it into another capsule and
>> prepend that to the core so that the existing UEFI API can palate it
>> transparently and cleanly.
> 
> I'm fairly sure this was my first thought when we discussed this
> originally, some years ago now.
> 
> The whole CSH concept is, frankly, stupid. It makes a mockery of
> everything the capsule interface was designed to be.
> 
> I have long been holding out in hope that someone would patch the
> firmware to work around this CSH requirement, something along the
> lines of the double wrapping Jan mentions above. It's not like the
> Quark is the only platform that wants to verify capsules.
> 
> But to my knowledge, that hasn't happened.
> 
> Nevertheless my answer is still the same - someone needs to go and
> update the Quark firmware source to work with the generic capsule
> mechanism.
> 

>From you POV, does this exclude upstream quirk support for already
shipped devices?

Jan

-- 
Siemens AG, Corporate Technology, CT RDA ITP SES-DE
Corporate Competence Center Embedded Linux

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-02-28 12:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-15 18:14 [PATCH 0/2] efi: Enhance capsule loader to support signed Quark images Jan Kiszka
2017-02-15 18:14 ` [PATCH 1/2] efi/capsule: Prepare for loading images with security header Jan Kiszka
2017-02-15 18:14 ` [PATCH 2/2] efi/capsule: Add support for Quark " Jan Kiszka
     [not found]   ` <47e493c47aa79b68be52f743ac1790fddab22938.1487182480.git.jan.kiszka-kv7WeFo6aLtBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-17  1:30     ` Bryan O'Donoghue
     [not found]       ` <9949ecad-4b73-cccc-7e66-0afe0d2f4087-SyKdqv6vbfZdzvEItQ6vdLNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-24 16:44         ` Jan Kiszka
     [not found] ` <cover.1487182480.git.jan.kiszka-kv7WeFo6aLtBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-15 18:17   ` [PATCH 0/2] efi: Enhance capsule loader to support signed Quark images Ard Biesheuvel
     [not found]     ` <CAKv+Gu_4UVAVp0WJT4drY8MijD7-CuhLUghVNhoLA-1VjQ_m4w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-15 18:47       ` Jan Kiszka
2017-02-15 18:41   ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-02-15 18:46   ` Andy Shevchenko
     [not found]     ` <CAHp75VeVZo8f_aXZ=R8Y+++RSQeT=tFZmL6NNfekKJTkJc-nZA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-15 18:50       ` Jan Kiszka
     [not found]         ` <1bf3c9d8-56aa-818b-350f-deb62ad14e08-kv7WeFo6aLtBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-15 18:59           ` Jan Kiszka
     [not found]             ` <4014c5e6-b5a0-7552-166f-a42992532c09-kv7WeFo6aLtBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-16  3:00               ` Kweh, Hock Leong
     [not found]                 ` <F54AEECA5E2B9541821D670476DAE19C5DE533B3-j2khPEwRog0FyVwBAnZdSLfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-16  7:29                   ` Jan Kiszka
2017-02-18 21:48                     ` Ard Biesheuvel
     [not found]                       ` <CAKv+Gu_2edBA++6ywE4FE2NSbkCWjEULPmriS1iBifsRCgA+OA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-19 13:33                         ` Jan Kiszka
2017-02-20  1:33                           ` Bryan O'Donoghue
     [not found]                             ` <c1beeeb5-2359-d9c1-4759-b112c7d1a613-SyKdqv6vbfZdzvEItQ6vdLNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-20  1:52                               ` Jan Kiszka
2017-03-24 15:18                             ` Jan Kiszka
2017-02-17  0:53                   ` Bryan O'Donoghue
     [not found]                     ` <f4f63644-e099-b192-5337-15c07d761fb4-SyKdqv6vbfZdzvEItQ6vdLNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-17  8:23                       ` Kweh, Hock Leong
     [not found]                         ` <F54AEECA5E2B9541821D670476DAE19C5DE5373E-j2khPEwRog0FyVwBAnZdSLfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-17  9:24                           ` Jan Kiszka
     [not found]                             ` <5da59d02-d299-f5c7-48fa-a67bdd017252-kv7WeFo6aLtBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-28 12:12                               ` Matt Fleming
     [not found]                                 ` <20170228121255.GD28416-mF/unelCI9GS6iBeEJttW/XRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-28 12:20                                   ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2017-02-28 12:29                                     ` Matt Fleming
     [not found]                                       ` <20170228122947.GE28416-mF/unelCI9GS6iBeEJttW/XRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-28 13:25                                         ` Ard Biesheuvel
     [not found]                                           ` <CAKv+Gu-OCr1nX0-kWnWg4=DnDpZvM-ipSCfLbBA8h1e5eJYBbw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-28 13:35                                             ` Andy Shevchenko
     [not found]                                               ` <CAHp75VcQ8ZoGqR=iOzVq0WbieMvGFnkTQZ-TBmwBTZT0B1NS_Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-28 13:36                                                 ` Andy Shevchenko
     [not found]                                                   ` <CAHp75VcQcALWdcWAM-odAAnR1uEwE=4rOhtB2E9WtS84ORH8Qw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-28 15:07                                                     ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2017-02-28 15:09                                                       ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2017-02-28 15:27                                                       ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-02-28 16:52                                                         ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2017-02-28 17:18                                                           ` Andy Shevchenko
     [not found]                                                             ` <CAHp75VdELFFeoJXXHbsHHuyd2xBY0y4T+M7q5+ZFN=ep3Qy9HQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-28 17:42                                                               ` Bryan O'Donoghue
     [not found]                                                                 ` <ce0ddedb-ee72-8dba-0e60-8d5e2d7a69a0-SyKdqv6vbfZdzvEItQ6vdLNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-01 14:02                                                                   ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2017-03-01 14:55                                                                     ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-02-17  9:51                           ` Bryan O'Donoghue
     [not found]                             ` <89831548-506f-9199-57ae-400ce020081a-SyKdqv6vbfZdzvEItQ6vdLNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>
2017-02-17 10:14                               ` Jan Kiszka
2017-02-17 11:42                                 ` Bryan O'Donoghue

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=fb94de5b-e359-ab8d-bb9b-52efcad91bc5@siemens.com \
    --to=jan.kiszka-kv7wefo6altbdgjk7y7tuq@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=andy.shevchenko-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=ard.biesheuvel-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=boon.leong.ong-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=bp-Gina5bIWoIWzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=hock.leong.kweh-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=linux-efi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=matt-mF/unelCI9GS6iBeEJttW/XRex20P6io@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=pure.logic-SyKdqv6vbfZdzvEItQ6vdLNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=tze.siong.mok-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox