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From: Mingming Cao <cmm@us.ibm.com>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, sandeen@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Delayed allocation and page_lock vs transaction start ordering
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:08:52 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1208282932.3636.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080415161430.GC28699@duck.suse.cz>

On Tue, 2008-04-15 at 18:14 +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
>   Hi,
> 
>   I've ported my patch inversing locking ordering of page_lock and
> transaction start to ext4 (on top of ext4 patch queue). Everything except
> delayed allocation is converted (the patch is below for interested
> readers). The question is how to proceed with delayed allocation. Its
> current implementation in VFS is designed to work well with the old
> ordering (page lock first, then start a transaction). We could bend it to
> work with the new locking ordering but I really see no point since ext4 is
> the only user. 

I think the plan is port the changes to ext2/3/JFS and support delayed
allocation on those filesystems. 

> Also XFS has AFAIK ordering first start transaction, then
> lock pages so if we should ever merge delayed alloc implementations the new
> ordering would make it easier.
>   So what do people think here? Do you agree with reimplementing current
> mpage_da_... functions?

It worth a try, but I could not see how to bend delayed allocation to
work the new ordering:( With delayed allocation Ext4 gets into
writepage() directly with page locked, but we need to start transaction
to do block allocation...:(

I guess this reserve locking ordering allows support writepages() for
ext3/4? What other the benefits?

Regards,
Mingming


  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-04-15 18:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-15 16:14 Delayed allocation and page_lock vs transaction start ordering Jan Kara
2008-04-15 17:58 ` Badari Pulavarty
2008-04-16  9:26   ` Jan Kara
2008-04-15 18:08 ` Mingming Cao [this message]
2008-04-15 23:28   ` Mingming Cao
2008-04-15 23:33     ` Mingming Cao
2008-04-16 10:35       ` Jan Kara
2008-04-16 18:24         ` Mingming Cao
2008-04-16 19:55           ` Badari Pulavarty
2008-04-16  9:38   ` Jan Kara
2008-04-18 18:54     ` Andreas Dilger
2008-04-18 19:38       ` Mingming Cao
2008-04-21 17:13       ` Jan Kara
2008-05-21  8:21 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2008-05-26 17:21   ` Jan Kara
2008-05-26 18:00     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2008-05-27 12:43       ` Jan Kara
2008-05-27 15:11         ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2008-05-28  9:33           ` Jan Kara
2008-05-28  9:43             ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2008-05-28 10:33               ` Jan Kara

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