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From: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>
To: tytso@mit.edu
Cc: joannelkoong@gmail.com, miklos@szeredi.hu, John@groves.net,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, bernd@bsbernd.com,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, neal@gompa.dev
Subject: [PATCHSET RFC v3 3/3] fuse2fs: handle timestamps and ACLs correctly when iomap is enabled
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2025 16:26:19 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <175279461680.716436.11923939115339176158.stgit@frogsfrogsfrogs> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250717231038.GQ2672029@frogsfrogsfrogs>

Hi all,

When iomap is enabled for a fuse file, we try to keep as much of the
file IO path in the kernel as we possibly can.  That means no calling
out to the fuse server in the IO path when we can avoid it.  However,
the existing FUSE architecture defers all file attributes to the fuse
server -- [cm]time updates, ACL metadata management, set[ug]id removal,
and permissions checking thereof, etc.

We'd really rather do all these attribute updates in the kernel, and
only push them to the fuse server when it's actually necessary (e.g.
fsync).  Furthermore, the POSIX ACL code has the weird behavior that if
the access ACL can be represented entirely by i_mode bits, it will
change the mode and delete the ACL, which fuse servers generally don't
seem to implement.

IOWs, we want consistent and correct (as defined by fstests) behavior
of file attributes in iomap mode.  Let's make the kernel manage all that
and push the results to userspace as needed.  This improves performance
even further, since it's sort of like writeback_cache mode but more
aggressive.

If you're going to start using this code, I strongly recommend pulling
from my git trees, which are linked below.

Comments and questions are, as always, welcome.

e2fsprogs git tree:
https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/djwong/e2fsprogs.git/log/?h=fuse2fs-iomap-attrs
---
Commits in this patchset:
 * fuse2fs: allow O_APPEND and O_TRUNC opens
 * fuse2fs: skip permission checking on utimens when iomap is enabled
 * fuse2fs: let the kernel tell us about acl/mode updates
 * fuse2fs: better debugging for file mode updates
 * fuse2fs: debug timestamp updates
 * fuse2fs: use coarse timestamps for iomap mode
 * fuse2fs: add tracing for retrieving timestamps
 * fuse2fs: enable syncfs
 * fuse2fs: skip the gdt write in op_destroy if syncfs is working
 * fuse2fs: implement statx
---
 misc/fuse2fs.c |  348 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++------------
 1 file changed, 276 insertions(+), 72 deletions(-)


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-07-17 23:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-17 23:10 [RFC v3] fuse: use fs-iomap for better performance so we can containerize ext4 Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:25 ` [PATCHSET RFC v3 1/3] fuse2fs: use fuse iomap data paths for better file I/O performance Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:39   ` [PATCH 01/22] fuse2fs: implement bare minimum iomap for file mapping reporting Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:39   ` [PATCH 02/22] fuse2fs: add iomap= mount option Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:40   ` [PATCH 03/22] fuse2fs: implement iomap configuration Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:40   ` [PATCH 04/22] fuse2fs: register block devices for use with iomap Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:40   ` [PATCH 05/22] fuse2fs: always use directio disk reads with fuse2fs Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:40   ` [PATCH 06/22] fuse2fs: implement directio file reads Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:41   ` [PATCH 07/22] fuse2fs: use tagged block IO for zeroing sub-block regions Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:41   ` [PATCH 08/22] fuse2fs: only flush the cache for the file under directio read Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:41   ` [PATCH 09/22] fuse2fs: add extent dump function for debugging Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:41   ` [PATCH 10/22] fuse2fs: implement direct write support Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:42   ` [PATCH 11/22] fuse2fs: turn on iomap for pagecache IO Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:42   ` [PATCH 12/22] fuse2fs: improve tracing for fallocate Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:42   ` [PATCH 13/22] fuse2fs: don't zero bytes in punch hole Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:43   ` [PATCH 14/22] fuse2fs: don't do file data block IO when iomap is enabled Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:43   ` [PATCH 15/22] fuse2fs: disable most io channel flush/invalidate in iomap pagecache mode Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:43   ` [PATCH 16/22] fuse2fs: re-enable the block device pagecache for metadata IO Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:43   ` [PATCH 17/22] fuse2fs: avoid fuseblk mode if fuse-iomap support is likely Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:44   ` [PATCH 18/22] fuse2fs: don't allow hardlinks for now Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:44   ` [PATCH 19/22] fuse2fs: enable file IO to inline data files Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:44   ` [PATCH 20/22] fuse2fs: set iomap-related inode flags Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:44   ` [PATCH 21/22] fuse2fs: add strictatime/lazytime mount options Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:45   ` [PATCH 22/22] fuse2fs: configure block device block size Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:26 ` [PATCHSET RFC v3 2/3] fuse2fs: use fuse iomap data paths for better file I/O performance Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:45   ` [PATCH 1/1] fuse2fs: enable caching of iomaps Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:26 ` Darrick J. Wong [this message]
2025-07-17 23:45   ` [PATCH 01/10] fuse2fs: allow O_APPEND and O_TRUNC opens Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:45   ` [PATCH 02/10] fuse2fs: skip permission checking on utimens when iomap is enabled Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:46   ` [PATCH 03/10] fuse2fs: let the kernel tell us about acl/mode updates Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:46   ` [PATCH 04/10] fuse2fs: better debugging for file mode updates Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:46   ` [PATCH 05/10] fuse2fs: debug timestamp updates Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:46   ` [PATCH 06/10] fuse2fs: use coarse timestamps for iomap mode Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:47   ` [PATCH 07/10] fuse2fs: add tracing for retrieving timestamps Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:47   ` [PATCH 08/10] fuse2fs: enable syncfs Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:47   ` [PATCH 09/10] fuse2fs: skip the gdt write in op_destroy if syncfs is working Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-17 23:47   ` [PATCH 10/10] fuse2fs: implement statx Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-18  8:54 ` [RFC v3] fuse: use fs-iomap for better performance so we can containerize ext4 Christian Brauner
2025-07-18 11:55   ` Amir Goldstein
2025-07-18 19:31     ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-18 19:56       ` Amir Goldstein
2025-07-18 20:21         ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-23 13:05       ` Christian Brauner
2025-07-23 18:04         ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-31 10:13           ` Christian Brauner
2025-07-31 17:22             ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-04 10:12               ` Christian Brauner
2025-08-12 20:20                 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-08-15 14:20                   ` Christian Brauner

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