From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: jbacik@redhat.com, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/1] add a jbd option to force an unclean journal state
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 15:58:01 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080304155801.6f48bf08.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080304190109.GD24335@duck.suse.cz>
On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 20:01:09 +0100
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue 04-03-08 13:39:41, Josef Bacik wrote:
> > jbd and I want a way to verify that I'm not screwing anything up in the
> > process, and this is what I came up with. Basically this option would only be
> > used in the case where someone mounts an ext3 image or fs, does a specific IO
> > operation (create 100 files, write data to a few files etc), unmounts the fs
> > and remounts so that jbd does its journal recovery and then check the status of
> > the fs to make sure its exactly the way its expected to be. I'm not entirely
> > sure how usefull of an option like this would be (or if I did it right :) ),
> > but I thought I'd throw it out there in case anybody thinks it may be useful,
> > and in case there is some case that I'm missing so I can fix it and better make
> > sure I don't mess anything up while doing stuff. Basically this patch keeps us
> > from resetting the journal's tail/transaction sequence when we destroy the
> > journal so when we mount the fs again it will look like we didn't unmount
> > properly and recovery will occur. Any comments are much appreciated,
> Actually, there is a different way how we've done checking like this (and
> I think also more useful), at least for ext3. Basically you mounted a
> filesysteem with some timeout and after the timeout, device was forced
> read-only. And then you've checked that the fs is consistent after journal
> replay. I think Andrew had the patches somewhere...
About a billion years ago...
But the idea was (I think) good:
- mount the filesystem with `-o ro_after=100'
- the fs arms a timer to go off in 100 seconds
- now you start running some filesystem stress test
- the timer goes off. At timer-interrupt time, flags are set which cause
the low-level driver layer to start silently ignoring all writes to the
device which backs the filesystem.
This simulates a crash or poweroff.
- Now up in userspace we
- kill off the stresstest
- unmount the fs
- mount the fs (to run recovery)
- unmount the fs
- fsck it
- mount the fs
- check the data content of the files which the stresstest was writing:
look for uninitialised blocks, incorrect data, etc.
- unmount the fs
- start it all again.
So it's 100% scriptable and can be left running overnight, etc. It found
quite a few problems with ext3/jbd recovery which I doubt could be found by
other means. This was 6-7 years ago and I'd expect that new recovery bugs
have crept in since then which it can expose.
I think we should implement this in a formal, mergeable fashion, as there
are numerous filesystems which could and should use this sort of testing
infrastructure.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-03-04 23:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-03-04 18:39 [RFC PATCH 1/1] add a jbd option to force an unclean journal state Josef Bacik
2008-03-04 19:01 ` Jan Kara
2008-03-04 23:58 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2008-03-05 2:46 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-03-05 7:34 ` Andreas Dilger
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