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From: Darren Hart <dvhart@infradead.org>
To: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: Andreas Dilger <adilger@dilger.ca>,
	linux-ext4 <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [e2fsprogs] initdir: Writing inode after the initial write?
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2012 09:46:06 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50BE36DE.6030300@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121204152231.GG29083@thunk.org>



On 12/04/2012 07:22 AM, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 03, 2012 at 11:46:07AM -0800, Darren Hart wrote:
>>> Maybe Ted can confirm whether that is true or not.  At least I recall
>>> that the block allocator inside libext2fs was horrible, and creating
>>> large files was problematic.
>>
>> Ted, can you confirm?
> 
> The block allocator inside libext2fs is primitive; it will find the
> first free block and use it.  It should be OK for populating large
> flash devices for file system images stored on flash devices (where
> seeks don't matter so block group placement isn't a big deal), and
> especially for fixed root file system images which are mounted
> read-only and which tend to be updated only once in a while (i.e., in
> the cases of Android system updates), and so you don't really care
> about aligning file writes to eMMC erase blocks.
> 
> It could certainly be made better, and for people who were trying to
> use libext2fs with FUSE targetting hard drives, there are ample
> opportunities for improvements.....
> 


I think what I'm reading here is that if you care about having a
filesystem that makes hardware specific optimizations, you're better off
mounting the device and copying the filesystem over. In that case, plan
on needing root access.


> Creating large files shouldn't be a problem (unless what you mean is
> ext4 huge files ala the huge file feature where the number of 512
> blocks exceeds 2**32, in which case you should probably test that case
> if you care about it), and it certainly will create extents-based
> files.

Great, sounds like this approach is still viable. Thanks Ted!

--
Darren Hart
Intel Open Source Technology Center
Yocto Project - Technical Lead - Linux Kernel

  reply	other threads:[~2012-12-04 17:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-01  2:13 [e2fsprogs] initdir: Writing inode after the initial write? Darren Hart
2012-12-01  4:23 ` Andreas Dilger
2012-12-01  5:08   ` Darren Hart
2012-12-01 19:31     ` Andreas Dilger
2012-12-03 19:46       ` Darren Hart
2012-12-04 10:45         ` Yongqiang Yang
2012-12-04 17:42           ` Darren Hart
2012-12-04 10:59         ` Andreas Dilger
2012-12-04 17:43           ` Darren Hart
2012-12-04 19:08             ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-12-04 19:40               ` Darren Hart
2012-12-04 20:00                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-12-04 20:10                   ` Darren Hart
2012-12-04 20:36                     ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-12-04 15:22         ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-12-04 17:46           ` Darren Hart [this message]
2012-12-04 19:24             ` Theodore Ts'o

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