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From: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
To: Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	 Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	 Seth Forshee <sforshee@kernel.org>,
	Tycho Andersen <tycho@tycho.pizza>,
	 Heiko Carstens <hca@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] pidfd: add pidfdfs
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2024 22:26:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240223-schusselig-windschatten-a108c9034c5b@brauner> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240223-delfin-achtlos-e03fd4276a34@brauner>

On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 12:55:07PM +0100, Christian Brauner wrote:
> > Apologies if this has already been reported or fixed but I did not see
> > anything on the mailing list.
> > 
> > On next-20240221 and next-20240222, with CONFIG_FS_PID=y, some of my
> > services such as abrtd, dbus, and polkit fail to start on my Fedora
> > machines, which causes further isssues like failing to start network
> > interfaces with NetworkManager. I can easily reproduce this in a Fedora
> > 39 QEMU virtual machine, which has:
> > 
> >   # systemctl --version
> >   systemd 254 (254.9-1.fc39)
> 
> If something fails for completely inexplicable reasons:
> 
> Feb 23 12:09:58 fed1 audit[353]: AVC avc:  denied  { read write open } for  pid=353 comm="systemd-userdbd" path="pidfd:[709]" dev="pidfs" ino=709 scontext=system_u:system_r:systemd_userdbd_t:>
> 
> >   +SELINUX
> 
> pidfd creation can now be mediated by LSMs since we can finally go
> through the regular open path. That wasn't possible before but LSM
> mediation ability had been requested a few times.
> 
> In short, we have to update the selinux policy for Fedora. (Fwiw, went
> through the same excercise with nsfs back then.)
> 
> I've created a pull-request here:
> 
> https://github.com/fedora-selinux/selinux-policy/pull/2050
> 
> and filed an issue here:
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2265630
> 
> We have sufficient time to get this resolved and I was assured that this
> would be resolved. If we can't get it resolved in a timely manner we'll
> default to N for a while until everything's updated but I'd like to
> avoid that. I'll track that issue.

So I want to provide more context since I took the time to track this
all down in detail.

The failure you are seeing is indeed an selinux denial as I've pointed
out. The core failure is dbus-broker. That cascades into all the other
services failing. When dbus-broker fails to start polkit and all the
others won't be able to work because they depend on dbus-broker.

The reason for dbus-broker failing is because it doesn't handle failures
for SO_PEERPIDFD correctly. Last kernel release (either v6.7 or v6.6,
I'm not completely sure right now) we introduced SO_PEERPIDFD (and
SCM_PIDFD). SO_PEERPIDFD allows dbus-broker and polkit and others to
receive a pidfd for the peer of an AF_UNIX socket. This is the first
time in the history of Linux that we can safely authenticate clients in
a race-free manner. :)

dbus-broker immediately made use of this but messed up the error
checking. It only allowed EINVAL as a valid failure for SO_PEERPIDFD.
That's obviously problematic not just because of LSM denials but because
of seccomp denials that would prevent SO_PEERPIDFD from working; or any
other new error code from there.

So this is catching a flawed implementation in dbus-broker as well. It
_has_ to fallback to the old pid-based authentication when SO_PEERPIDFD
doesn't work no matter the reasons otherwise it'll always risk such
failures.

So, the immediate fix separate from the selinux policy update is to fix
dbus-broker which we've done now:

https://github.com/bus1/dbus-broker/pull/343

That should make it into Fedora asap as well.

The selinux reference policy is also updated in addition to the Fedora
policy:

https://github.com/bus1/dbus-broker/pull/343

So overall that LSM denial should not have caused dbus-broker to fail.
It can never assume that a feature released one kernel ago like
SO_PEERPIDFD can be assumed to be available.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-02-23 21:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-13 16:45 [PATCH 0/2] Move pidfd to tiny pseudo fs Christian Brauner
2024-02-13 16:45 ` [PATCH 1/2] pidfd: move struct pidfd_fops Christian Brauner
2024-02-13 16:45 ` [PATCH 2/2] pidfd: add pidfdfs Christian Brauner
2024-02-13 17:17   ` Linus Torvalds
2024-02-14 14:40     ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-14 18:27       ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-14 18:37         ` Linus Torvalds
2024-02-15 16:11           ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-16 11:50             ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-16 16:41               ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-17 13:59               ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-02-17 17:30                 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-02-17 17:38                   ` Linus Torvalds
2024-02-18 11:15                   ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-18 11:33                     ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-18 17:54                       ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-18 18:08                         ` Linus Torvalds
2024-02-18 18:57                           ` Linus Torvalds
2024-02-19 18:05                             ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-19 18:34                               ` Linus Torvalds
2024-02-19 21:18                                 ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-19 23:24                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2024-02-18 14:27                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-02-18  9:30                 ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-22 19:03   ` Nathan Chancellor
2024-02-23 10:18     ` Heiko Carstens
2024-02-23 11:56       ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-23 11:55     ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-23 12:57       ` Heiko Carstens
2024-02-23 13:27         ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-23 13:35           ` Heiko Carstens
2024-02-23 13:41       ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-23 21:26       ` Christian Brauner [this message]
2024-02-23 21:58         ` Linus Torvalds
2024-02-24  5:52           ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-24  6:05             ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-24 18:48             ` Linus Torvalds
2024-02-24 19:15               ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-24 19:19                 ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-24 19:21                 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-02-27 19:26                 ` Nathan Chancellor
2024-02-27 22:13                   ` Christian Brauner
2024-03-12 10:35   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-03-12 14:09     ` Christian Brauner
2024-05-15 11:10   ` Jiri Slaby
2024-05-15 16:39     ` Christian Brauner
2024-05-16  5:28       ` Jiri Slaby
2024-05-17  7:09         ` Jiri Slaby
2024-05-17  7:54           ` Jiri Slaby
2024-05-17 20:07             ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-20  8:23               ` Jiri Slaby
2024-05-20 19:01                 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-20 19:15                   ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-21  6:07                     ` Jiri Slaby
2024-05-21  6:13                       ` Jiri Slaby
2024-05-21 12:33                         ` Christian Brauner
2024-05-21 12:40                           ` Christian Brauner
2024-05-21 15:10                             ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-25 11:57                               ` Christian Brauner
2024-05-21 12:16               ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-13 17:02 ` [PATCH 0/2] Move pidfd to tiny pseudo fs Christian Brauner

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