From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
To: Viacheslav Dubeyko <Slava.Dubeyko@ibm.com>
Cc: dhowells@redhat.com, Alex Markuze <amarkuze@redhat.com>,
"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
"idryomov@gmail.com" <idryomov@gmail.com>,
Xiubo Li <xiubli@redhat.com>,
"jlayton@kernel.org" <jlayton@kernel.org>,
"ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org" <ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org>,
"netfs@lists.linux.dev" <netfs@lists.linux.dev>
Subject: Re: Ceph and Netfslib
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2024 19:48:06 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3992139.1734551286@warthog.procyon.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1729f4bf15110c97e0b0590fc715d0837b9ae131.camel@ibm.com>
Viacheslav Dubeyko <Slava.Dubeyko@ibm.com> wrote:
> > Firstly, note that there may be a bug in ceph writeback cleanup as it
> > stands.
> > It calls folio_detach_private() without holding the folio lock (it
> > holds the
> > writeback lock, but that's not sufficient by MM rules). This means
> > you have a
> > race between { setting ->private, setting PG_private and inc refcount
> > } on one
> > hand and { clearing ->private, clearing PG_private and dec refcount }
> > on the
> > other.
> >
>
> I assume you imply ceph_invalidate_folio() method. Am I correct here?
Actually, no, writepages_finish() is the culprit.
ceph_invalidate_folio() is called with the folio locked and can freely wrangle
folio->private.
> > Secondly, there's a counter, ci->i_wrbuffer_ref, that might actually be
> > redundant if we do it right as I_PINNING_NETFS_WB offers an alternative
> > way we might do things. If we set this bit, ->write_inode() will be
> > called with wbc->unpinned_netfs_wb set when all currently dirty pages have
> > been cleaned up (see netfs_unpin_writeback()). netfslib currently uses
> > this to pin the fscache objects but it could perhaps also be used to pin
> > the writeback cap for ceph.
>
> Yeah, ci->i_wrbuffer_ref looks like not very reliable programming
> pattern and if we can do it in other way, then it could be more safe
> solution. However, this counter is used in multiple places of ceph
> code. It needs to find a solution to get rid of this counter in safe
> and easy way.
>
> >
> > Thirdly, I was under the impression that, for any given page/folio,
> > only the
> > head snapshot could be altered - and that any older snapshot must be
> > flushed
> > before we could allow that.
> >
> >
> > Fourthly, the ceph_snap_context struct holds a list of snaps. Does
> > it really
> > need to, or is just the most recent snap for which the folio holds
> > changes
> > sufficient?
> >
>
> Let me dive into the implementation details. Maybe, Alex can share more
> details here.
Thanks.
David
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-12-18 19:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-12-18 18:33 Ceph and Netfslib David Howells
2024-12-18 18:47 ` Patrick Donnelly
2024-12-18 19:36 ` David Howells
2024-12-18 19:06 ` Viacheslav Dubeyko
2024-12-18 19:48 ` David Howells [this message]
2024-12-23 23:13 ` Viacheslav Dubeyko
2024-12-24 12:56 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-12-24 21:52 ` Viacheslav Dubeyko
2025-01-09 0:53 ` Viacheslav Dubeyko
2024-12-18 19:43 ` David Howells
2025-03-05 16:34 ` Is EOLDSNAPC actually generated? -- " David Howells
2025-03-05 19:23 ` Alex Markuze
2025-03-05 20:22 ` David Howells
2025-03-06 13:19 ` Alex Markuze
2025-03-06 13:48 ` David Howells
2025-03-06 13:55 ` Alex Markuze
2025-03-06 13:58 ` Venky Shankar
2025-03-06 14:13 ` David Howells
2025-03-06 14:23 ` Alex Markuze
2025-03-06 16:21 ` Gregory Farnum
2025-03-06 17:18 ` Alex Markuze
2025-03-06 15:55 ` David Howells
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