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From: Nikolaus Rath <Nikolaus@rath.org>
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Cc: linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>, Neil Brown <neil@brown.name>
Subject: Re: Behaviour of /proc/self/fd/NN
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 12:10:20 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87muqblv0z.fsf@thinkpad.rath.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJfpegs6knndH=K85hHWABCd4XvKLV9X8DYJoFaqd56XArz6Ew@mail.gmail.com> (Miklos Szeredi's message of "Wed, 14 Nov 2018 12:57:20 +0100")

On Nov 14 2018, Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 11:45 AM, Nikolaus Rath <Nikolaus@rath.org> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> If I understand Documentation/filesystems/path-lookup.md correctly, then
>> the "symlinks" in /proc/self/fd/NN are not true symlinks but just
>> presented as such to userspace. Does this mean that I can access (e.g.,
>> open(), setxattr(), or chmod()) these files without the possibility of
>> race conditions? I.e., there is no way for someone to rename the target
>> after the kernel has "looked up" the target but before the operation is
>> applied?
>
> Exactly.   The only limitation is that if the target is a symlink (fd
> opened with O_PATH) then the neither the symlink following, nor the
> non-following variants will do the right thing (see *xattr ops in
> passthrough_ll for example).

A workaround for that case would be to use readlink() and then act on
that without eg lgetxattr. That would introduce a race condition, but it
would work where that's not a concern, right?

That said, I also noticed the following code to handle utimens for symlinks:

res = utimensat(inode->fd, "", tv,
		AT_EMPTY_PATH | AT_SYMLINK_NOFOLLOW);
if (res == -1 && errno == EINVAL) {
	/* Sorry, no race free way to set times on symlink. */
	errno = EPERM;
}

So it looks as it at least utimensat() does the right thing under at
least some conditions...?


>> Secondly, under which conditions can I open the files in /proc? Does
>> this still work if the destination file has been unlinked?
>
> Yes.
>
>> Does it
>> always follow renames? What if I mounted something over the destination?
>
> It works in all those cases.

Did you mean it *always* works, or it works in the cases I listed but
there are other cases where it can fail?


Thanks!
-Nikolaus

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-14 22:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-14 10:45 Behaviour of /proc/self/fd/NN Nikolaus Rath
2018-11-14 11:57 ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-11-14 12:10   ` Nikolaus Rath [this message]
2018-11-14 12:20     ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-11-14 12:29       ` Nikolaus Rath
2018-11-14 12:33         ` Miklos Szeredi

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