* Re: [PATCH] docs/power: note Btrfs limitation with FIBMAP for swap file offset
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@ 2026-05-12 8:01 ` Christoph Hellwig
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From: Christoph Hellwig @ 2026-05-12 8:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Arun Rao Balappa
Cc: linux-pm, rafael, lenb, pavel, linux-kernel, linux-btrfs,
linux-fsdevel
On Tue, May 12, 2026 at 12:07:13PM +0530, Arun Rao Balappa wrote:
> On Btrfs, the FIBMAP ioctl does not return physical block addresses.
On btrfs, and on anything that writes out of place or uses multiple
devices for that matter, FIBMAP is not implemented.
> Tools such as filefrag therefore cannot determine the correct swap file
> offset for use as resume_offset. Document the correct btrfs-progs
> command to use instead.
All of this is inherently unsafe. File systems and do move file data
without notifying users. This document is a really bad idea and
should be removed as we should not encourage users to rely on these
kinds of hacks.
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* Re: [PATCH] docs/power: note Btrfs limitation with FIBMAP for swap file offset
@ 2026-05-12 9:42 Arun Rao
2026-05-15 13:23 ` Christoph Hellwig
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From: Arun Rao @ 2026-05-12 9:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: hch
Cc: Arun, lenb, linux-btrfs, linux-fsdevel, linux-kernel, linux-pm,
pavel, rafael
Understood. My intent was mainly to document the current behaviour
observed by users on Btrfs systems where filefrag/FIBMAP-based
guidance fails, and to point users toward the existing btrfs-progs
tooling.
That said, I understand the concern about encouraging users to rely on
resume_offset-based workflows in general given the underlying
fragility of file block mappings on moving or CoW filesystems.
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* Re: [PATCH] docs/power: note Btrfs limitation with FIBMAP for swap file offset
2026-05-12 9:42 [PATCH] docs/power: note Btrfs limitation with FIBMAP for swap file offset Arun Rao
@ 2026-05-15 13:23 ` Christoph Hellwig
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From: Christoph Hellwig @ 2026-05-15 13:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Arun Rao
Cc: hch, Arun, lenb, linux-btrfs, linux-fsdevel, linux-kernel,
linux-pm, pavel, rafael
On Tue, May 12, 2026 at 03:12:44PM +0530, Arun Rao wrote:
> Understood. My intent was mainly to document the current behaviour
> observed by users on Btrfs systems where filefrag/FIBMAP-based
> guidance fails, and to point users toward the existing btrfs-progs
> tooling.
>
> That said, I understand the concern about encouraging users to rely on
> resume_offset-based workflows in general given the underlying
> fragility of file block mappings on moving or CoW filesystems.
Yes. Can you maybe extend the text a bit to generally warn about this?
I also realized that filefrag uses FIEMAP by default these days and not
just FIBMAP, which is what makes it so dangerous on btrfs. btrfs
smartly does not implement ->bmap, but it does implement FIEMAP in
this weird way mapping to the logical address space.
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