RE: Linux Newbie with Compiling Problems...

RE: Linux Newbie with Compiling Problems...

[wb9mjn]

    Hi All,

          I think I may have found a workaround. With allot of looking, I 
found that as86 is a part of a package that does the same thing as dev86 
 (real mode assembly). So, I started looking around in the directories that 
dev86 deposits its files. No, 'as86' (or 'as') was not part of dev86 
itself. But, the system had installed a program called 'as' in /usr/bin/ 
directory. I did a 'as --help' command and the result made it clear that 
this was indeed an assembler program. So, made a copy of 'as' renamed to 
'as86' and did

make clean
make bzImage

       It seems to be taking allot longer than previously. Hopefully this 
will work. Any comments?

      73, Don...

-----Original Message-----
From:	wb9mjn [SMTP:wb9mjn@wb9mjn-11.ampr.org]
Sent:	Sunday, March 02, 2003 8:42 AM
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Subject:	RE: Linux Newbie with Compiling Problems...


   Hi Kelly and Jean,

      Thanks for the response. This is where my latest attempt to compile 
in AX.25 is stalling. I will look up that package and install it.

      73, Don...


On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 18:58, wb9mjn wrote:
>     Hi All,
>
>       Does anybody know what package the command 'as86' is part of ?
>
>     73, Don...
>

It is in package bin86 under Debian if that helps.

Debian description:

This is the as86 and ld86 distribution written by Bruce Evans. It's a
complete 8086 assembler and loader which can make 32-bit code for the
386+ processors (under Linux it's used only to create the 16-bit boot
sector and setup binaries).

--
Kelly Black <kelly.black@penguinpackets.com>

Re: Linux Newbie with Compiling Problems...

[Hamish Moffatt]

On Sun, Mar 02, 2003 at 03:11:24PM -0600, wb9mjn wrote:
>           I think I may have found a workaround. With allot of looking, I 
> found that as86 is a part of a package that does the same thing as dev86 
>  (real mode assembly). So, I started looking around in the directories that 
> dev86 deposits its files. No, 'as86' (or 'as') was not part of dev86 
> itself. But, the system had installed a program called 'as' in /usr/bin/ 
> directory. I did a 'as --help' command and the result made it clear that 
> this was indeed an assembler program. So, made a copy of 'as' renamed to 
> 'as86' and did

as isn't as86, so the result probably won't work. as is the standard
assembler, not the real mode assembler.


Hamish
-- 
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Re: Linux Newbie with Compiling Problems...

[pa3gcu]

On Sunday 02 March 2003 21:11, wb9mjn wrote:
>     Hi All,
>
>           I think I may have found a workaround. 

I doubt that very much, 'as' is not 'as86'
as =  the portable GNU assembler
as86 = Assembler for 8086..80386 processors

But having said that it would not suprise me to see that Mandarke have 
converted both into one and simply called it 'as'.

> With allot of looking, I
> found that as86 is a part of a package that does the same thing as dev86
>  (real mode assembly). So, I started looking around in the directories that
> dev86 deposits its files. No, 'as86' (or 'as') was not part of dev86
> itself. But, the system had installed a program called 'as' in /usr/bin/
> directory. I did a 'as --help' command and the result made it clear that
> this was indeed an assembler program. So, made a copy of 'as' renamed to
> 'as86' and did
>
> make clean
> make bzImage
>
>        It seems to be taking allot longer than previously. Hopefully this
> will work. Any comments?

Tell us if it did work and you can actually boot you kernel assembled with as 
called as86.

>       73, Don...

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RE: Linux Newbie with Compiling Problems...

[wb9mjn]

   Hi Ray,

      I used Kpackage and went through all the disks manually. Trying 
Rpmdrake, now, I see I wasted some time, but the as86 is still not there.

   Hi Hamish,

     According to the notes on the dev86 package, it includes the real mode 
assembler. But which file it is I am not sure. The 'asm' entry is not an 
executable. And 'as86' is not in there either !?


      73, Don...




-----Original Message-----
From:	Ray Heasman [SMTP:ray@isdmg.com]
Sent:	Sunday, March 02, 2003 3:34 PM
To:	wb9mjn@wb9mjn-11.ampr.org
Cc:	Linux Hams mailing list
Subject:	RE: Linux Newbie with Compiling Problems...

Hi Don,

On Sun, 2003-03-02 at 09:20, wb9mjn wrote:
>
>
> Hi Kelly, Jean and Bernard,
>
>     I am stuck again. Cannot find the bin86 package in the collection of
> Mandrake 7.2 disks here. Did find dev86, which I installed, but it had no 

> effect on the compilation. It still wants as86.
>
>     Does anybody know which package in Mandrake 7.2 one can find the as86 

> assembler program?
>

It's been a while since I used Mandrake, but there are two commands you
may find very useful: "rpm" and "rpmdrake". You can use "man rpm" to
find out more about rpm.

RPMDrake specifically allows you to search your Mandrake disks for the
RPM containing a specific file.

Rpm itself has some useful tools, like, to find out what rpm provided a
particular file, do "rpm -qa --whatprovides /path/to/file".

Hope this helps,
Ray


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RE: Linux Newbie with Compiling Problems...

[wb9mjn]

Hi Kelly, Jean and Bernard,

    I am stuck again. Cannot find the bin86 package in the collection of 
Mandrake 7.2 disks here. Did find dev86, which I installed, but it had no 
effect on the compilation. It still wants as86.

    Does anybody know which package in Mandrake 7.2 one can find the as86 
assembler program?

    73, Don...

On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 18:58, wb9mjn wrote:
>     Hi All,
>
>       Does anybody know what package the command 'as86' is part of ?
>
>     73, Don...
>

It is in package bin86 under Debian if that helps.

Debian description:

This is the as86 and ld86 distribution written by Bruce Evans. It's a
complete 8086 assembler and loader which can make 32-bit code for the
386+ processors (under Linux it's used only to create the 16-bit boot
sector and setup binaries).

--
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RE: Linux Newbie with Compiling Problems...

[Ray Heasman]

Hi Don,

On Sun, 2003-03-02 at 09:20, wb9mjn wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Kelly, Jean and Bernard,
> 
>     I am stuck again. Cannot find the bin86 package in the collection of 
> Mandrake 7.2 disks here. Did find dev86, which I installed, but it had no 
> effect on the compilation. It still wants as86.
> 
>     Does anybody know which package in Mandrake 7.2 one can find the as86 
> assembler program?
> 

It's been a while since I used Mandrake, but there are two commands you
may find very useful: "rpm" and "rpmdrake". You can use "man rpm" to
find out more about rpm.

RPMDrake specifically allows you to search your Mandrake disks for the
RPM containing a specific file.

Rpm itself has some useful tools, like, to find out what rpm provided a
particular file, do "rpm -qa --whatprovides /path/to/file".

Hope this helps,
Ray

RE: Linux Newbie with Compiling Problems...

[wb9mjn]

   Hi Kelly and Jean,

      Thanks for the response. This is where my latest attempt to compile in AX.25 is stalling. I will look up that package and install it.

      73, Don...

 
On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 18:58, wb9mjn wrote:
>     Hi All,
> 
>       Does anybody know what package the command 'as86' is part of ?
> 
>     73, Don...
> 

It is in package bin86 under Debian if that helps.

Debian description:

This is the as86 and ld86 distribution written by Bruce Evans. It's a
complete 8086 assembler and loader which can make 32-bit code for the
386+ processors (under Linux it's used only to create the 16-bit boot
sector and setup binaries).

-- 
Kelly Black <kelly.black@penguinpackets.com>

Re: Linux Newbie with Compiling Problems...

[Bernard Pidoux F6BVP]

wb9mjn wrote:

>   Hi Kelly and Jean,
>
>      Thanks for the response. This is where my latest attempt to compile in AX.25 is stalling. I will look up that package and install it.
>
>      73, Don...
>  
>
I can assure you that you don't need it as86 from elsewhere for making 
bzImage in Mandrake-Linux distro.
Just issue the indicated set of commands :

make mrproper (followed by either make  xconfig or make menuconfig)
make  dep
make bzImage ...etc...

73 de Bernard, F6BVP

> 
>On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 18:58, wb9mjn wrote:
>  
>
>>    Hi All,
>>
>>      Does anybody know what package the command 'as86' is part of ?
>>
>>    73, Don...
>>
>>    
>>
>
>It is in package bin86 under Debian if that helps.
>
>Debian description:
>
>This is the as86 and ld86 distribution written by Bruce Evans. It's a
>complete 8086 assembler and loader which can make 32-bit code for the
>386+ processors (under Linux it's used only to create the 16-bit boot
>sector and setup binaries).
>
>  
>

RE: Linux Newbie with Compiling Problems...

[wb9mjn]

    Hi All,

      Does anybody know what package the command 'as86' is part of ?

    73, Don...

RE: Linux Newbie with Compiling Problems...

[Kelly Black]

On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 18:58, wb9mjn wrote:
>     Hi All,
> 
>       Does anybody know what package the command 'as86' is part of ?
> 
>     73, Don...
> 

It is in package bin86 under Debian if that helps.

Debian description:

This is the as86 and ld86 distribution written by Bruce Evans. It's a
complete 8086 assembler and loader which can make 32-bit code for the
386+ processors (under Linux it's used only to create the 16-bit boot
sector and setup binaries).

-- 
Kelly Black <kelly.black@penguinpackets.com>

Re: Linux Newbie with Compiling Problems...

[Jean-Luc]

wb9mjn wrote:
> 
>     Hi All,
> 
>       Does anybody know what package the command 'as86' is part of ?
> 
>     73, Don...
> 
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In Debian, It is part of bin86

---
73  Jean-Luc

RE: Linux Newbie with Compiling Problems...

[Wilbert Knol]

On Sat, 1 Mar 2003, wb9mjn wrote:

> 
>     Hi All,
> 
>       Does anybody know what package the command 'as86' is part of ?
> 


On my Mdk 7.2 system, as86 shows up here:

/usr/bin/as86
/usr/bin/as86_encap
/usr/share/man/man1/as86.1.bz2
(in package: dev86-0.15.1-1mdk)


Wilbert, ZL2BSJ


PS: A proper distribution should resolve those dependencies for
you. If you are installing the distibuted kernel sources, it should
also install the assemblers needed to build the kernel


PPS: As per Bash script below:

#!/bin/bash
#
# A script that locates an RPM package containing a specified filename.
#

if [ "$1" == "" ]
then
    echo
    echo "Usage: ffrpm <filename>"
    echo
    echo
    exit
fi


rpms=`rpm -qa`      # Get a list of all RPMs

for package in $rpms
do
    rpm -ql $package | grep $1 && echo "(in package: $package)" && echo
done

<EOF>

RE: Linux Newbie with Compiling Problems...

[Pontus Falk]

Hi!

>         Sri, no can do. When I originally started using this address,
> the
> whole internet was able to email here. As the years have gone by, I have
>  found that some substandard service providers, hotmail, etal, have
> problems  with the ampr.org addresses. I can only conclude, they do not
> like the  competition.

OK, but my own mail server don't find a route to your mailserver - not
only hotmail...

I just had a look in the domain.txt for ampr.org at ucsd.edu - your
entries are not correct!!!

EOD!

Regards,

Pontus/SMØRUX


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RE: Linux Newbie with Compiling Problems...

[Pontus Falk]

Hi Don,

First of all I have to tell you that you don't use a valid Internet e-mail
address. Maybe the address is accessible from you radio lan, but not from
Sweden, so please change asap so I can mail you direct and not via the
mailing list..!

> Ok on all the stuff above here, I have been doing this. But what is this
> next one ?  Do I actually type :
>
> make the changes in the Makefile file
>
> Or do I look into the Makefile file, and based on what is in there I
> type make x etc?

OK, have you read the HOWTO file about compiling a kernel?

No, you dont type "make the changes in the Makefile file". Open the
Makefile in four favourite editor, and look for a line starting with
"EXTRAVERSION = ". Change it to look something like "EXTRAVERSION =
ownkernel" and save the file...

Then, go for "make bzImage"...

But first, change you e-mail address or update your entry in the ampr.org
domain file... Very annoying not being able to send an e-mail direct to
you!

Regards,

Pontus/SMØRUX

> I have not been able to get past the:
> make bzImage
> so far.
>
> make modules
> make modules_install
> make install
>
> reboot and try the new kernel
>
> Regards,
>
> Pontus/SMORUX
>
>
> 73, Don...



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Re: Linux Newbie with Compiling Problems...

[pa3gcu]

On Wednesday 26 February 2003 06:56, Pontus Falk wrote:

> OK, have you read the HOWTO file about compiling a kernel?
>
> No, you dont type "make the changes in the Makefile file". Open the
> Makefile in four favourite editor, and look for a line starting with
> "EXTRAVERSION = ". Change it to look something like "EXTRAVERSION =
> ownkernel" and save the file...

I wrote a small HOWTO on compiling a kernel for ax25, it can be found at;

http://people.zeelandnet.nl/pa3gcu/kernel.htm

It AFAIK explains all that is relavant.

-- 
Regards Richard
pa3gcu@zeelandnet.nl
http://people.zeelandnet.nl/pa3gcu/

RE: Linux Newbie with Compiling Problems...

[Pontus Falk]

Hi!

>        I used 'make xconfig' . It had many many options for IDE devices.
>
> The kernel put on the disk by the Linux install did not include a config
>  file. So, I had no "blueprint" to tweak. This meant I had to guess at
> the  configuration settings to use. I may have guessed wrong, or the
> compiler  may have a bug, or ?, or ? or ?

I'm not so experienced, but I would try the following.

make mrproper
make menuconfig (mark the options as mentioned in AX25-HOWTO)
make dep
make clean

make the changes in the Makefile file

make bzImage
make modules
make modules_install
make install

reboot and try the new kernel

Regards,

Pontus/SMØRUX


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RE: Linux Newbie with Compiling Problems...

[Pontus Falk]

Hi,

> Yes, during 'make bzImage'.

Ok, what abt the .config file - have you tried to search it for 'ide' or
'lock'?

Regards,

Pontus/SMØRUX


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Re: Linux Newbie with Compiling Problems...

[Pontus Falk]

Hi Don,

> I am new to linux, and am having dificulty compiling AX.25 support
> into the kernel.

Please let us know more...

Is it during the 'make bzImage' command you get an error message? What
does the message say?

Regards,

Pontus/SMØRUX



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Linux Newbie with Compiling Problems...

[wb9mjn]

    Hi All,

         I am new to linux, and am having dificulty compiling AX.25 support 
into the kernel.

         I am using Mandrake 7.2, kernel 2.2.17mdk . The compile errors out 
when it is trying to make the drivers for the hard disk.

         Has anybody had this experience with this release? I have heard of 
people having trouble with Mandrake of this vintage with real time linux 
extensions for use with the NIST EMC program.

          I did try a newer linux. Redhat 8.0. This would not install. 
There is some kinda incompatibility between the Redhat CD reading programs 
and the computer (100 MHz P1). So, I put the Mandrake 7.2 back on, and it 
loaded like it did the first time, no problems.


       73, Don, WB9MJN ...

Re: Linux Newbie with Compiling Problems...

[Shane Deering]

On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 08:51, wb9mjn wrote:
>     Hi All,
>
>          I am new to linux, and am having dificulty compiling AX.25 support
> into the kernel.

You wouldn't be alone on that one.

>
>          I am using Mandrake 7.2, kernel 2.2.17mdk . The compile errors out
> when it is trying to make the drivers for the hard disk.

That used to be my favourite kernel for packet. I even used it on my Redhat 
box for some time.
I seem to remember cheating when I compiled that kernel. Using the default 
.config, I only added the ax25 stuff (built into the kernel) and skipped the 
rest of the stuff for the modules (used the old modules, make sure the 
version name/numbers are the same in the makefile). Basically I used a new 
kernel with the old modules. That worked very well and I was able to copy 
that kernel (and modules) from box to box while I waited for  more stable 2.4 
kernel ax25 code.

>           I did try a newer linux. Redhat 8.0. This would not install.
> There is some kinda incompatibility between the Redhat CD reading programs
> and the computer (100 MHz P1). So, I put the Mandrake 7.2 back on, and it
> loaded like it did the first time, no problems.

Personal opinion only here. I don't like Redhat 8.0 . Love Redhat 7.2 and 7.3 
and am using 7.2 for packet now. Mandrake 9.0 is my all time favourite. Even 
better than MDK 7.2. MDK 9.0 is ax25 ready out of the box. Redhat stuffed up 
ax25 support in the kernel and you have to compile your own.
I have tried a number of other distros over the years (some ax25 ready), but 
there comes a time when you want to use Linux for real and not spend all your 
time installing and setting up new distros.
I still have a soft spot for MDK7.2. It was the one that convinced me that 
Windows is no longer a viable OS option for anything but playing (some) games 
on.


-- 
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vk3bvp@vk3bvp.#sev.vic.aus.oc   MDK9.0 Up 41 minutes 
http://www.qsl.net/vk3bvp/      RH7.2 Up 3 days, 6 minutes 

Re: Linux Newbie with Compiling Problems...

[Bernard Pidoux F6BVP]

wb9mjn wrote:

>    Hi All,
>
>         I am new to linux, and am having dificulty compiling AX.25 support 
>into the kernel.
>
>         I am using Mandrake 7.2, kernel 2.2.17mdk . The compile errors out 
>when it is trying to make the drivers for the hard disk.
>
>         Has anybody had this experience with this release? I have heard of 
>people having trouble with Mandrake of this vintage with real time linux 
>extensions for use with the NIST EMC program.
>

I have been using Mandrake Linux for AX25 since earlier distributions.
As far as we are speaking of Mandrake this release is the perfect one to 
use for AX25.
In my own experience newer distro with 2.4.x kernels do not support 
correctly AX25.
There are very often kernel disfunctions or panics...
However you can update 7.2 distro using 7.2 updates from Mandrake FTP 
site or FTP mirrors.

>          I did try a newer linux. Redhat 8.0. This would not install. 
>There is some kinda incompatibility between the Redhat CD reading programs 
>and the computer (100 MHz P1). So, I put the Mandrake 7.2 back on, and it 
>loaded like it did the first time, no problems.
>  
>
I had the same experience. However this is not a problem since in my 
opinion you should keep 7.2 with 2.2.17 or 2.2.23
the last 2.2 stable kernel (see http://www.kernel.org).
In order to compile it you need to install the developpment option (i.e. 
devel libraries).

>
>       73, Don, WB9MJN ...
>
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