making apps

making apps

[Dexter N Muir]

Hi all

  Starting out with Mandrake 9.0, and trying to get ax25 up.  Looked at
pa3gcu's page, and followed instructions.  Everything worked except make
on ax25-apps-0.0.6, which bombed while making call.  Of course, it all
scrolls up and off the screen - can someone point me to how to look at
this (working at command prompt Ctrl-Alt-F1, so no xterm scrollbar :-),
so I can see better where exactly the bomb-out is?  It's repeatable.
  A pointer to current archives would not go amiss either - all I could
find was http://groups.google.com/groups?=mlist.linux.hams (current only
to Nov 2002) and http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/Linux and selecting
linux-hams (current to Aug 2002).
http://zone.hes.iki.fi/archive/linux-hams is long gone :-(
   Craig - ax25-apps-0.0.6 has the INSTALL file top line saying it's for
ax25 Tools (???)

Hopefully helpfully

Cheers
Dex ZL2DEX

Re: making apps

[M Taylor]

On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 02:39:42PM +1200, Dexter N Muir wrote:
> Hi all
> 
>   Starting out with Mandrake 9.0, and trying to get ax25 up.  Looked at
> pa3gcu's page, and followed instructions.  Everything worked except make
> on ax25-apps-0.0.6, which bombed while making call.  Of course, it all
> scrolls up and off the screen - can someone point me to how to look at
> this (working at command prompt Ctrl-Alt-F1, so no xterm scrollbar :-),
> so I can see better where exactly the bomb-out is?  It's repeatable.

Shift-PageUp will allow you scroll up, provided you have not
switched virtual consoles since the error message was printed.

Look for the first compiler error and/or warning message, this is 
the best place to start.

I'll make a wild guess that you do not have the ncurses header (include)
files installed, which you can find in a RPM package called ncurses-devel
or similiar. You should be able to find it on your Mandrake CDs or
from a FTP mirror.

73,
 ve1mct

RE: making apps

[Dexter N Muir]

Thanks! Now can someone point me to the right version for Mandrake 9.0?
Like I said, 'starting out'... :-)
   Seems all the latest distros have dropped this package out - maybe
HOWTOs should reflect this?

Cheers all and thanks
Dex ZL2DEX

-----Original Message-----
From: linux-hams-owner@vger.kernel.org
[mailto:linux-hams-owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of M Taylor
Sent: Friday, 28 March 2003 2:54 p.m.
To: Dexter N Muir
Cc: linux-hams@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: making apps

On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 02:39:42PM +1200, Dexter N Muir wrote:
> Hi all
> 
>   Starting out with Mandrake 9.0, and trying to get ax25 up.  Looked
at
> pa3gcu's page, and followed instructions.  Everything worked except
make
> on ax25-apps-0.0.6, which bombed while making call.  Of course, it all
> scrolls up and off the screen - can someone point me to how to look at
> this (working at command prompt Ctrl-Alt-F1, so no xterm scrollbar
:-),
> so I can see better where exactly the bomb-out is?  It's repeatable.

Shift-PageUp will allow you scroll up, provided you have not
switched virtual consoles since the error message was printed.

Look for the first compiler error and/or warning message, this is 
the best place to start.

I'll make a wild guess that you do not have the ncurses header (include)
files installed, which you can find in a RPM package called
ncurses-devel
or similiar. You should be able to find it on your Mandrake CDs or
from a FTP mirror.

73,
 ve1mct

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Re: making apps

[Bob Nielsen]

On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 03:59:19PM +1200, Dexter N Muir wrote:
>    Seems all the latest distros have dropped this package out - maybe
> HOWTOs should reflect this?

Not Debian:

Here's a (probably not complete) list of ham radio packages currently
included in "sarge" (which will be the next release):

aprsd - Internet Gateway for the Automatic Position Reporting System
ax25-apps - Applications for AX25
ax25-tools - AX-25 Tools
ax25-xtools - AX-25 Tools (X versions)
dgipip - AMPRNet dynamic IPIP encapsulation routing daemon.
fbb - Packet radio mailbox and utilities
hamfax - Receive/send radio facsimile transmissions with Soundcard/PTC-II
hamlib-dev - Development library to control radio transceivers and receivers.
hamlib-doc - Documentation for the hamlib radio control library.
hamlib-utils - Utilities to support the hamlib radio control library.
hamlib1 - Run-time library to control radio transceivers and receivers.
hamsoft - Reader for new hamradio linux software at radio.linux.org.au
hdlant - calculates dimensions for microwave ham radio antennas
ipip - IP over IP Encapsulation Daemon
libax25 - ax25 libraries for hamradio applications
libax25-dev - ax25 library development files
linpsk - Program for operating PSK31/RTTY modes with X GUI
node - Amateur Packet Radio Node program
p10cfgd - Remote configuration daemon for Gracilis Packeten.
phaseshift - PSK31 terminal for X11
pileup - Morse code pileup trainer for SB compatible soundcards.
predict - Satellite Tracking Program with Optional Voice Output
rspfd - Radio Shortest Path Daemon
sattrack - satellite tracker and prediction
sattrack-x11 - satellite tracker and prediction
soundmodem - Sound Card Amateur Packet Radio Modems
tlf - Console mode purpose CW keyer, logging- and contest program
tlfmanual - Documentation for tlf, a hamradio logging and contest program
twclock - Clock program for hamradio operators
twlog - Logging program for hamradio operators
xastir - X Amateur Station Tracking and Information Reporting
xconvers - Hamradio convers client for X/GTK
xdx - DX-cluster tcp/ip client for amateur radio
xlog - GTK+ Logging program for Hamradio Operators

73,
Bob, N7XY

RE: making apps

[Dexter N Muir]

I did wonder about Debian - thanks for the confirmation Bob!  Mandrake
take note! :-)  I found libncurses and libncurses-devel, ncurses and
ncurses-extraterms, but not ncurses-devel.  Where do I go?

Cheers
Dex

-----Original Message-----
From: linux-hams-owner@vger.kernel.org
[mailto:linux-hams-owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of Bob Nielsen
Sent: Friday, 28 March 2003 5:15 p.m.
To: linux-hams@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: making apps

On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 03:59:19PM +1200, Dexter N Muir wrote:
>    Seems all the latest distros have dropped this package out - maybe
> HOWTOs should reflect this?

Not Debian:

Here's a (probably not complete) list of ham radio packages currently
included in "sarge" (which will be the next release):

aprsd - Internet Gateway for the Automatic Position Reporting System
ax25-apps - Applications for AX25
ax25-tools - AX-25 Tools
ax25-xtools - AX-25 Tools (X versions)
dgipip - AMPRNet dynamic IPIP encapsulation routing daemon.
fbb - Packet radio mailbox and utilities
hamfax - Receive/send radio facsimile transmissions with
Soundcard/PTC-II
hamlib-dev - Development library to control radio transceivers and
receivers.
hamlib-doc - Documentation for the hamlib radio control library.
hamlib-utils - Utilities to support the hamlib radio control library.
hamlib1 - Run-time library to control radio transceivers and receivers.
hamsoft - Reader for new hamradio linux software at radio.linux.org.au
hdlant - calculates dimensions for microwave ham radio antennas
ipip - IP over IP Encapsulation Daemon
libax25 - ax25 libraries for hamradio applications
libax25-dev - ax25 library development files
linpsk - Program for operating PSK31/RTTY modes with X GUI
node - Amateur Packet Radio Node program
p10cfgd - Remote configuration daemon for Gracilis Packeten.
phaseshift - PSK31 terminal for X11
pileup - Morse code pileup trainer for SB compatible soundcards.
predict - Satellite Tracking Program with Optional Voice Output
rspfd - Radio Shortest Path Daemon
sattrack - satellite tracker and prediction
sattrack-x11 - satellite tracker and prediction
soundmodem - Sound Card Amateur Packet Radio Modems
tlf - Console mode purpose CW keyer, logging- and contest program
tlfmanual - Documentation for tlf, a hamradio logging and contest
program
twclock - Clock program for hamradio operators
twlog - Logging program for hamradio operators
xastir - X Amateur Station Tracking and Information Reporting
xconvers - Hamradio convers client for X/GTK
xdx - DX-cluster tcp/ip client for amateur radio
xlog - GTK+ Logging program for Hamradio Operators

73,
Bob, N7XY
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Re: making apps

[Bob Nielsen]

Dex,

Although my experience over the past several years has been with
Debian, I expect that SuSe and probably Red Hat still support ax25,
since they also have hams who are active in the organizations.  On the
other hand, compiling from source isn't necessarily a bad thing--I have
a few ham programs which I update frequently from CVS because the
packages tend to lag behind the latest code (which is also why I run
the "testing" version of Debian instead of the stable version).

The package names vary a bit between distributions, but
libncurses-devel contains the libs and includes required for
compilation of apps using ncurses.  The others are required when you
run the apps.  Thus you probably need all of the packages you listed
with the possible exception of ncurses-extraterms.

Bob

On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 06:25:33PM +1200, Dexter N Muir wrote:
> I did wonder about Debian - thanks for the confirmation Bob!  Mandrake
> take note! :-)  I found libncurses and libncurses-devel, ncurses and
> ncurses-extraterms, but not ncurses-devel.  Where do I go?
> 
> Cheers
> Dex
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: linux-hams-owner@vger.kernel.org
> [mailto:linux-hams-owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of Bob Nielsen
> Sent: Friday, 28 March 2003 5:15 p.m.
> To: linux-hams@vger.kernel.org
> Subject: Re: making apps
> 
> On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 03:59:19PM +1200, Dexter N Muir wrote:
> >    Seems all the latest distros have dropped this package out - maybe
> > HOWTOs should reflect this?
> 
> Not Debian:
> 
> Here's a (probably not complete) list of ham radio packages currently
> included in "sarge" (which will be the next release):
> 
> aprsd - Internet Gateway for the Automatic Position Reporting System
> ax25-apps - Applications for AX25
> ax25-tools - AX-25 Tools
> ax25-xtools - AX-25 Tools (X versions)
> dgipip - AMPRNet dynamic IPIP encapsulation routing daemon.
> fbb - Packet radio mailbox and utilities
> hamfax - Receive/send radio facsimile transmissions with
> Soundcard/PTC-II
> hamlib-dev - Development library to control radio transceivers and
> receivers.
> hamlib-doc - Documentation for the hamlib radio control library.
> hamlib-utils - Utilities to support the hamlib radio control library.
> hamlib1 - Run-time library to control radio transceivers and receivers.
> hamsoft - Reader for new hamradio linux software at radio.linux.org.au
> hdlant - calculates dimensions for microwave ham radio antennas
> ipip - IP over IP Encapsulation Daemon
> libax25 - ax25 libraries for hamradio applications
> libax25-dev - ax25 library development files
> linpsk - Program for operating PSK31/RTTY modes with X GUI
> node - Amateur Packet Radio Node program
> p10cfgd - Remote configuration daemon for Gracilis Packeten.
> phaseshift - PSK31 terminal for X11
> pileup - Morse code pileup trainer for SB compatible soundcards.
> predict - Satellite Tracking Program with Optional Voice Output
> rspfd - Radio Shortest Path Daemon
> sattrack - satellite tracker and prediction
> sattrack-x11 - satellite tracker and prediction
> soundmodem - Sound Card Amateur Packet Radio Modems
> tlf - Console mode purpose CW keyer, logging- and contest program
> tlfmanual - Documentation for tlf, a hamradio logging and contest
> program
> twclock - Clock program for hamradio operators
> twlog - Logging program for hamradio operators
> xastir - X Amateur Station Tracking and Information Reporting
> xconvers - Hamradio convers client for X/GTK
> xdx - DX-cluster tcp/ip client for amateur radio
> xlog - GTK+ Logging program for Hamradio Operators
> 
> 73,
> Bob, N7XY
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Re: making apps

[Shane Deering]

On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 13:39, Dexter N Muir wrote:
> Hi all
>
>   Starting out with Mandrake 9.0, and trying to get ax25 up.  Looked at
> pa3gcu's page, and followed instructions.  Everything worked except make
> on ax25-apps-0.0.6, which bombed while making call.  Of course, it all
> scrolls up and off the screen - can someone point me to how to look at
> this (working at command prompt Ctrl-Alt-F1, so no xterm scrollbar :-),

Shift + page up|down

> so I can see better where exactly the bomb-out is?  It's repeatable.
>   A pointer to current archives would not go amiss either - all I could
> find was http://groups.google.com/groups?=mlist.linux.hams (current only
> to Nov 2002) and http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/Linux and selecting
> linux-hams (current to Aug 2002).

Or install ax25-apps-0.0.6-1mdk.i586.rpm

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Re: making apps

[Jose A. Amador]

On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 13:57:22 +1100, "Shane Deering" <vk3bvp@qsl.net>
said:
> On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 13:39, Dexter N Muir wrote:
> > Hi all
> >
> >   Starting out with Mandrake 9.0, and trying to get ax25 up.  Looked at
> > pa3gcu's page, and followed instructions.  Everything worked except make
> > on ax25-apps-0.0.6, which bombed while making call.  Of course, it all
> > scrolls up and off the screen - can someone point me to how to look at
> > this (working at command prompt Ctrl-Alt-F1, so no xterm scrollbar :-),
> 
> Shift + page up|down
> 
> > so I can see better where exactly the bomb-out is?  It's repeatable.
> >   A pointer to current archives would not go amiss either - all I could
> > find was http://groups.google.com/groups?=mlist.linux.hams (current only
> > to Nov 2002) and http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/Linux and selecting
> > linux-hams (current to Aug 2002).
> 
> Or install ax25-apps-0.0.6-1mdk.i586.rpm
 
You could also make a log of your compilation with something similar to:

make > /tmp/making_apps 2>&1

Hope this helps. Guess that ncurses might be related as you were
suggested
before. Shane's suggestion (using the rpm) could be the easy way out...

73 de Jose, CO2JA



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Re: making apps

[w9ya]

Mandrake is now at 9.1

run this:
script compile.log
(then whatever you do like ./configure && make && make install - just whever 
you want to record, including prompts and other commands)
ctrl+d

bob finch
w9ya


On Thursday 27 March 2003 11:16 pm, Jose A. Amador wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 13:57:22 +1100, "Shane Deering" <vk3bvp@qsl.net>
>
> said:
> > On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 13:39, Dexter N Muir wrote:
> > > Hi all
> > >
> > >   Starting out with Mandrake 9.0, and trying to get ax25 up.  Looked at
> > > pa3gcu's page, and followed instructions.  Everything worked except
> > > make on ax25-apps-0.0.6, which bombed while making call.  Of course, it
> > > all scrolls up and off the screen - can someone point me to how to look
> > > at this (working at command prompt Ctrl-Alt-F1, so no xterm scrollbar
> > > :-),
> >
> > Shift + page up|down
> >
> > > so I can see better where exactly the bomb-out is?  It's repeatable.
> > >   A pointer to current archives would not go amiss either - all I could
> > > find was http://groups.google.com/groups?=mlist.linux.hams (current
> > > only to Nov 2002) and http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/Linux and
> > > selecting linux-hams (current to Aug 2002).
> >
> > Or install ax25-apps-0.0.6-1mdk.i586.rpm
>
> You could also make a log of your compilation with something similar to:
>
> make > /tmp/making_apps 2>&1
>
> Hope this helps. Guess that ncurses might be related as you were
> suggested
> before. Shane's suggestion (using the rpm) could be the easy way out...
>
> 73 de Jose, CO2JA
>
>
>
> --
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Re: making apps

[Jose A. Amador]

On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 23:31:39 -0500, "w9ya" <w9ya@amsat.org> said:

> run this:
> script compile.log
> (then whatever you do like ./configure && make && make install - just
> whatever you want to record, including prompts and other commands) ctrl+d
> 
> bob finch
> w9ya

Certainly ! How could I forget ! It is the EASIEST way to log EVERYTHING
!!
He, he ! Thanks,

Jose, CO2JA


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RE: making apps

[Riley Williams]

Hi Jose.

 >>> Starting out with Mandrake 9.0, and trying to get ax25 up.
 >>> Looked at pa3gcu's page, and followed instructions. Everything
 >>> worked except make on ax25-apps-0.0.6, which bombed while
 >>> making call. Of course, it all scrolls up and off the screen.
 >>> Can someone point me to how to look at this (working at
 >>> command prompt Ctrl-Alt-F1, so no xterm scrollbar :-)

 >> Shift + page up | down

 >>> so I can see better where exactly the bomb-out is? It's
 >>> repeatable.

 > You could also make a log of your compilation with something
 > similar to:
 >
 >         make > /tmp/making_apps 2>&1
 >
 > Hope this helps. Guess that ncurses might be related as you were
 > suggested before. Shane's suggestion (using the rpm) could be
 > the easy way out...

When it comes to making logs of what's going on, I generally do...

           make 2>&1 | tee make.log

...as that puts the log on the screen and lets me watch what it's
doing, so I don't get bored watching an unchanging screen. Also, by
dropping the log in the current directory, I know what it relates to
if I forget to erase it and come back to it later.

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RE: making apps

[Curt Mills, WE7U]

On Fri, 28 Mar 2003, Riley Williams wrote:

> When it comes to making logs of what's going on, I generally do...
>
>            make 2>&1 | tee make.log

I do this instead:

    (make 2>&1) | tee make.log

The reason for the extra parenthesis:  It makes it run in a
subshell, and you can pipe all of STDERR from the subshell to
STDOUT, which then gets piped to "tee".

If you don't use those parenthesis and you're running something that
invokes several different scripts/programs, or an alias that has
more than two commands in it, you don't get everything piped into
the "tee" command.  With the parenthesis, you do.

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RE: making apps

[Curt Mills, WE7U]

On Fri, 28 Mar 2003, Riley Williams wrote:

>  3. Where `make` is an alias, the alias is expanded BEFORE applying
>     the redirection. This is the case where differences occur.

That's the case I most often use it.  Also:  Where I type something
from the command line like:

    (make clean;make;make install-strip) | tee make.log

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