packet radio gateway

packet radio gateway

[Richard B. Pyne]

I have been inactive in the world of packet radio for about ten years 
and am trying to get back involved. All of the "how-to" documentation I 
have been able to find regarding setting up a linux based AMPRnet 
gateway is at least 15 years old.

A group of us are trying to get an IP packet network up and running with 
the hope of being able to provide primarily email service to 
portable/mobile stations.

Any guidance will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

73, nz7k

Re: packet radio gateway

[Dave Platt]

On 10/10/2011 10:02 AM, Richard B. Pyne wrote:
> I have been inactive in the world of packet radio for about ten years
> and am trying to get back involved. All of the "how-to" documentation I
> have been able to find regarding setting up a linux based AMPRnet
> gateway is at least 15 years old.
> 
> A group of us are trying to get an IP packet network up and running with
> the hope of being able to provide primarily email service to
> portable/mobile stations.
> 
> Any guidance will be greatly appreciated.

Take a look at what the Santa Clara County ARES/RACES group
has been doing.

The network consists of four Linux nodes running JNOS,
which provide standard AX.25-based mail service to client
systems in the field (city and county EOCs, mobile and
portable stations) and have a TCP/IP-based store-and-forward
message backbone.

The preferred client implementation is Outpost, an Outlook-
like email front-end.  This is, alas, Windows-based (although
I'm told it runs OK under some versions of WINE).

http://www.scc-ares-races.org/packet.html

Re: packet radio gateway

[Ardor]

I think it would be great to setup GRE tunnels for AMPRnet gateways.
I am would interested in creating a guide for doing such a thing, but
who would setup the other side of the tunnel and is this something
they are willing to work with me on?

Thanks
-KF7RMM / Andrew

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Richard B. Pyne <rpyne@kinfolk.org> wrote:
> I have been inactive in the world of packet radio for about ten years and am
> trying to get back involved. All of the "how-to" documentation I have been
> able to find regarding setting up a linux based AMPRnet gateway is at least
> 15 years old.
>
> A group of us are trying to get an IP packet network up and running with the
> hope of being able to provide primarily email service to portable/mobile
> stations.
>
> Any guidance will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks.
>
> 73, nz7k
>
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Re: packet radio gateway

[Bill Vodall]

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Richard B. Pyne <rpyne@kinfolk.org> wrote:
> I have been inactive in the world of packet radio for about ten years and am
> trying to get back involved. All of the "how-to" documentation I have been
> able to find regarding setting up a linux based AMPRnet gateway is at least
> 15 years old.

That's essentially it...


> A group of us are trying to get an IP packet network up and running with the
> hope of being able to provide primarily email service to portable/mobile
> stations.

If your goal is primarily to provide an Email service, then you'll be
far ahead to participate in the winlink2000 system.  They only do
email and they do it well.

There's a lot more cool stuff that can be done with TCP on packet -
but that's a whole different ballgame.

> Any guidance will be greatly appreciated.

> 73, nz7k

73
Bill - WA7NWP

Re: packet radio gateway

[John Goerzen]

On 10/10/2011 04:04 PM, Bill Vodall wrote:
> There's a lot more cool stuff that can be done with TCP on packet -
> but that's a whole different ballgame.
>

I've done it a bit here locally, using some nonroutable IP ranges.  It 
was fun but at 1200bps a bit painful, though very occasionally useful to 
fix something on a remote box.  What sorts of things do you have in mind?

How does one get a 44 address anymore?  I've tried but kept running into 
brick walls due to people that were supposed to be doing things in that 
system being AWOL.


- John

Re: packet radio gateway

[Ardor]

I am trying to build a HSMM-MESH network, but I want to host an email
server, lots of IPS block outbond email ports, and inbound http ports,
I would like to setup a mesh network in Cheyenne Wyoming that goes 54
megs/sec with a few internet drains that are GRE tunnels for net 44.
that way, We can have public and static IP address on the Ham Radio
Servers. I would like to run Iniquity or renegade BBS software for
example, I do not want to be locked into a given platform for server
software, I should be able to setup an Ethernet connection and have a
default gateway and then use routers to tunnel it. Placing the 44
address directly on server and anything outside its subnet would be
set to the gateway address which would then enter the tunnel.

I think there is allot of really cool things that can be done, and I
would like to get younger hams into it. I can see us not only
supporting the red cross but also having Metro Area Wide Ham Radio
computer gaming parties.

We should not limit choices on what software can be used, We should
use a widely available tunneling protocol. I like GRE because its
widely supported, well documented, Easy to setup, and support Dynamic
Routing protocols.

To get a 44 address contact your local coordinators
http://www.ampr.org/amprnets.txt

If you are unable to get ahold of them for address assignment contact Brian
brian@ucsd.edu.

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 7:52 AM, John Goerzen <jgoerzen@complete.org> wrote:
> On 10/10/2011 04:04 PM, Bill Vodall wrote:
>>
>> There's a lot more cool stuff that can be done with TCP on packet -
>> but that's a whole different ballgame.
>>
>
> I've done it a bit here locally, using some nonroutable IP ranges.  It was
> fun but at 1200bps a bit painful, though very occasionally useful to fix
> something on a remote box.  What sorts of things do you have in mind?
>
> How does one get a 44 address anymore?  I've tried but kept running into
> brick walls due to people that were supposed to be doing things in that
> system being AWOL.
>
>
> - John
>
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Re: packet radio gateway

[Nate Bargmann]

* On 2011 12 Oct 09:29 -0500, John Goerzen wrote:
> On 10/10/2011 04:04 PM, Bill Vodall wrote:
> >There's a lot more cool stuff that can be done with TCP on packet -
> >but that's a whole different ballgame.
> >
> 
> I've done it a bit here locally, using some nonroutable IP ranges.
> It was fun but at 1200bps a bit painful, though very occasionally
> useful to fix something on a remote box.  What sorts of things do
> you have in mind?
> 
> How does one get a 44 address anymore?  I've tried but kept running
> into brick walls due to people that were supposed to be doing things
> in that system being AWOL.

John, Dale, K0HYD at Goddard was the AMPR IP coordinator for Kansas.
I'm not sure if he still does that.  I did see him at the KS convention
in August and he is getting back into amateur radio, or at least HF.  He
may be able to help you.

73, de Nate >>

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