From: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
To: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>
Cc: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb+git@google.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, will@kernel.org,
catalin.marinas@arm.com, mark.rutland@arm.com,
Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>,
Liz Prucka <lizprucka@google.com>,
Seth Jenkins <sethjenkins@google.com>,
Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>,
linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 08/10] arm64: mm: Don't abuse memblock NOMAP to check for overlaps
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2026 10:39:44 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1bd6e787-00af-4d4c-a882-a0b8fb7f6a2f@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMj1kXGsedZnV7GJZqo6Yfb4mi6YpMCu=fnHOwDib8-OxBij2g@mail.gmail.com>
On 27/01/2026 10:27, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Jan 2026 at 11:21, Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 26/01/2026 09:26, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
>>> From: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>
>>>
>>> Now that the DRAM mapping routines respect existing table mappings and
>>> contiguous block and page mappings, it is no longer needed to fiddle
>>> with the memblock tables to set and clear the NOMAP attribute. Instead,
>>> map the kernel text and rodata alias first, avoiding contiguous
>>> mappings, so that they will not be added later when mapping the
>>> memblocks.
>>
>> Should we do something similar for kfence? Currently we have
>> arm64_kfence_alloc_pool() which marks some memory NOMAP then
>> arm64_kfence_map_pool() which PTE-maps it and clears NOMAP. Presumably we could
>> rationalize into a single function that does it all, prior to mapping the bulk
>> of the linear map?
>>
>
> Yeah, good point - I did not spot that but I will address it in the
> next revision.
>
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>
>>> ---
>>> arch/arm64/mm/mmu.c | 27 ++++++++------------
>>> 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 17 deletions(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/arch/arm64/mm/mmu.c b/arch/arm64/mm/mmu.c
>>> index 80587cd47ce7..18415d4743bf 100644
>>> --- a/arch/arm64/mm/mmu.c
>>> +++ b/arch/arm64/mm/mmu.c
>>> @@ -1149,12 +1149,17 @@ static void __init map_mem(void)
>>> flags |= NO_BLOCK_MAPPINGS | NO_CONT_MAPPINGS;
>>>
>>> /*
>>> - * Take care not to create a writable alias for the
>>> - * read-only text and rodata sections of the kernel image.
>>> - * So temporarily mark them as NOMAP to skip mappings in
>>> - * the following for-loop
>>> + * Map the linear alias of the [_text, __init_begin) interval
>>> + * as non-executable now, and remove the write permission in
>>> + * mark_linear_text_alias_ro() above (which will be called after
>>> + * alternative patching has completed). This makes the contents
>>> + * of the region accessible to subsystems such as hibernate,
>>> + * but protects it from inadvertent modification or execution.
>>> + * Note that contiguous mappings cannot be remapped in this way,
>>> + * so we should avoid them here.
>>> */
>>> - memblock_mark_nomap(kernel_start, kernel_end - kernel_start);
>>> + __map_memblock(kernel_start, kernel_end, PAGE_KERNEL,
>>> + flags | NO_CONT_MAPPINGS);
>>
>> So the reason to disallow cont mappings is because we need to modify the
>> permissions later? It _is_ safe to change permissions on a live contiguous
>> mapping in this way. That was clarified in the architecture a couple of years
>> back and we rely on it for contpte_wrprotect_ptes(); see comment there.
>>
>
> OK, good to know - I was hoping to get your take on this ...
>
>> I think we could relax this?
>>
>
> OK, I suppose that means that we can drop the NO_CONT_MAPPINGS here,
> but we still need to map the kernel text/rodata alias initially to
> ensure that no block mappings are created that would need to broken
> down, right?
Yes, but...
I think your intent is that the multiple __map_memblock() calls are just
controlling the allowed leaf mapping sizes. It becomes problematic if the 2
calls use different permissions... which they do.
PAGE_KERNEL vs pgprot_tagged(PAGE_KERNEL).
Is it possible that the text/rodata section ends up tagged, which is not intended?
Thanks,
Ryan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-27 10:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-26 9:26 [PATCH v2 00/10] arm64: Unmap linear alias of kernel data/bss Ard Biesheuvel
2026-01-26 9:26 ` [PATCH v2 01/10] arm64: Move the zero page to rodata Ard Biesheuvel
2026-01-27 9:34 ` Ryan Roberts
2026-01-27 9:49 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2026-01-27 10:03 ` Ryan Roberts
2026-01-27 10:50 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2026-01-26 9:26 ` [PATCH v2 02/10] arm64: Move fixmap page tables to end of kernel image Ard Biesheuvel
2026-01-27 9:42 ` Ryan Roberts
2026-01-26 9:26 ` [PATCH v2 03/10] arm64: mm: Permit contiguous descriptors to be rewritten Ard Biesheuvel
2026-01-27 9:45 ` Ryan Roberts
2026-01-27 15:03 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2026-01-27 16:59 ` Ryan Roberts
2026-01-27 17:02 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2026-01-27 17:37 ` Ryan Roberts
2026-01-26 9:26 ` [PATCH v2 04/10] arm64: mm: Preserve existing table mappings when mapping DRAM Ard Biesheuvel
2026-01-27 9:58 ` Ryan Roberts
2026-01-26 9:26 ` [PATCH v2 05/10] arm64: mm: Preserve non-contiguous descriptors " Ard Biesheuvel
2026-01-27 9:58 ` Ryan Roberts
2026-01-26 9:26 ` [PATCH v2 06/10] arm64: mm: Remove bogus stop condition from map_mem() loop Ard Biesheuvel
2026-01-27 10:06 ` Ryan Roberts
2026-01-26 9:26 ` [PATCH v2 07/10] arm64: mm: Drop redundant pgd_t* argument from map_mem() Ard Biesheuvel
2026-01-27 10:10 ` Ryan Roberts
2026-01-26 9:26 ` [PATCH v2 08/10] arm64: mm: Don't abuse memblock NOMAP to check for overlaps Ard Biesheuvel
2026-01-27 10:21 ` Ryan Roberts
2026-01-27 10:27 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2026-01-27 10:39 ` Ryan Roberts [this message]
2026-01-27 10:47 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2026-01-27 11:00 ` Ryan Roberts
2026-01-27 11:03 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2026-01-27 11:09 ` Ryan Roberts
2026-01-26 9:26 ` [PATCH v2 09/10] arm64: mm: Map the kernel data/bss read-only in the linear map Ard Biesheuvel
2026-01-27 10:33 ` Ryan Roberts
2026-01-27 10:36 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2026-01-27 10:41 ` Ryan Roberts
2026-01-26 9:26 ` [PATCH v2 10/10] arm64: mm: Unmap kernel data/bss entirely from " Ard Biesheuvel
2026-01-27 10:50 ` Ryan Roberts
2026-01-27 10:54 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2026-01-27 11:02 ` Ryan Roberts
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