From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
To: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>,
Rasmus Villemoes <linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk>,
Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
Tycho Andersen <tycho@tycho.pizza>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] kallsyms: Document why unresolved symbols are revealed
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2026 10:01:42 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260901080142.CMTCw6vE@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <apZ9ea1on8A7o6kk@pathway.suse.cz>
On 2026-09-01 09:23:37 [+0200], Petr Mladek wrote:
> On Mon 2026-08-31 12:49:28, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > On Mon, 31 Aug 2026 15:37:29 +0200
> > Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de> wrote:
> >
> > > Could someone yell here, please? I convinced myself that hiding
> > > unresolved pointers is the good thing to do here since a "wrong" pointer
> > > would be seen in backtrace anyway.
> > >
> > > Thread starts at
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260821152614.2202196-1-bigeasy@linutronix.de/
> >
> > I wonder if we should just tagged hash values as such:
> >
> > | [ 1.498171] <TASK>
> > | [ 1.498172] 00000000cb9bc262 [hash]
> > | [ 1.498174] ? 00000000eb5021dd [hash]
> > | [ 1.498176] 00000000ed1a9938 [hash]
> > | [ 1.498178] </TASK>
> >
> > So that people will know that the value is just some random hash value and
> > not a real address.
> >
> > Although rather useless in call stacks, I like hash values because the same
> > address will show up the same.
> >
> > Having '[unknown]' may also be confusing because it doesn't really say
> > "why" it was unknown. But having a number goes back to what it always did.
> > Hashing it with a "[hash]" marker will also let people know the value was
> > hashed.
>
> I like this idea. I just wonder whether it might confuse some parsers
> who expect that symbol name is one string. %ps, %pS, %pB are used
> in various context.
>
> I think about adding the hint into the hashed value, e.g. by using
> 'h' instead of the highest number, something like:
>
> [ 1.498171] <TASK>
> [ 1.498172] h0000000cb9bc262
> [ 1.498174] ? h0000000eb5021dd
> [ 1.498176] h0000000ed1a9938
> [ 1.498178] </TASK>
>
> But 'h' is not a valid number number so it might confuse parsers as
> well. And it is not that user friedly either.
>
> So, I still like more Steven's variant with [hash].
While it does make sense to add [hash] to make it obvious it breaks
formatting for some of the %p users where %p is expected to have a fixed
length depending on 32/64 bit. Here, it is a %pS so adding extra it
wouldn't break anything but I don't think it should be different between
%p and %pS assuming we do print the hash instead 'unknown'.
> Best Regards,
> Petr
Sebastian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-01 8:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-08-21 15:26 [PATCH v2 0/2] vsprintf: Don't leak pointers Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-08-21 15:26 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] vsprintf: Don't leak pointers for %ps without KALLSYMS enabled Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-08-26 15:56 ` Petr Mladek
2026-08-27 9:14 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-08-27 9:51 ` Petr Mladek
2026-08-31 13:30 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-08-31 14:22 ` Petr Mladek
2026-08-21 15:26 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] kallsyms: Document why unresolved symbols are revealed Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-08-26 16:21 ` Petr Mladek
2026-08-27 10:24 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-08-31 13:37 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-08-31 16:49 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-09-01 7:23 ` Petr Mladek
2026-09-01 8:01 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior [this message]
2026-09-01 13:30 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-08-26 14:51 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] vsprintf: Don't leak pointers Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
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