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From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: 'Justin Stitt' <justinstitt@google.com>,
	Andy Whitcroft <apw@canonical.com>, Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>,
	Dwaipayan Ray <dwaipayanray1@gmail.com>,
	Lukas Bulwahn <lukas.bulwahn@gmail.com>
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Lee Jones <lee@kernel.org>,
	"linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org"
	<linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	"Finn Thain" <fthain@linux-m68k.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v2] checkpatch: add check for snprintf to scnprintf
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2024 22:30:46 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dd2b4ac483b54a41aff11a04b6906fd6@AcuMS.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240221-snprintf-checkpatch-v2-1-9baeb59dae30@google.com>

From: Justin Stitt
> Sent: 21 February 2024 22:12
> 
> I am going to quote Lee Jones who has been doing some snprintf ->
> scnprintf refactorings:
> 
> "There is a general misunderstanding amongst engineers that
> {v}snprintf() returns the length of the data *actually* encoded into the
> destination array.  However, as per the C99 standard {v}snprintf()
> really returns the length of the data that *would have been* written if
> there were enough space for it.  This misunderstanding has led to
> buffer-overruns in the past.  It's generally considered safer to use the
> {v}scnprintf() variants in their place (or even sprintf() in simple
> cases).  So let's do that."

While generally true, there are places that really do want to
detect (and error) overflow.
That isn't possible with scnprintf().

I'm not sure what the solution is though.
Having a function that returns a negative value on overflow is also
likely to get misused.
seq_printf() (or whatever it is called) may let you check,
but it is hardly a cheap wrapper and a bit of a PITA to use.

	David

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-02-22 22:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-21 22:11 [PATCH v2] checkpatch: add check for snprintf to scnprintf Justin Stitt
2024-02-21 22:33 ` Kees Cook
2024-02-22  1:05 ` Joe Perches
2024-02-23 10:38   ` Lee Jones
2024-02-23 12:47     ` Joe Perches
2024-02-22 22:30 ` David Laight [this message]
2024-02-23 10:41   ` Lee Jones

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