From: Marius Zachmann <mail@mariuszachmann.de>
To: Aleksandr Mezin <mezin.alexander@gmail.com>,
Wilken Gottwalt <wilken.gottwalt@posteo.net>
Cc: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>,
linux-hwmon@vger.kernel.org, Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: corsair-cpro and hidraw
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2021 08:18:23 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4451002.svKJrzdh7d@marius> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210618074500.7215532b@monster.powergraphx.local>
On 18.06.21 at 07:45:00 CEST, Wilken Gottwalt wrote
> On Fri, 18 Jun 2021 05:56:29 +0600
> Aleksandr Mezin <mezin.alexander@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I've looked through corsair-psu sources, and I think filtering in
> > raw_event won't be enough.
> >
> > For example, in corsairpsu_request, there are 2 commands, and they
> > should be executed consecutively:
> > 1) corsairpsu_usb_cmd(priv, 2, PSU_CMD_SELECT_RAIL, rail, NULL);
> > 2) corsairpsu_usb_cmd(priv, 3, cmd, 0, data);
> >
> > If the userspace will squeeze another PSU_CMD_SELECT_RAIL between (1)
> > and (2), the driver will get data for a wrong rail (and with the
> > current code won't even notice it).
> >
> > So unless there is a way to "lock" hidraw (and it seems that there
> > isn't - looking at the code, hidraw calls the low-level hid driver
> > directly, as far as I understand), it won't work correctly.
> >
> > And if a driver can't work correctly with hidraw enabled - maybe it
> > shouldn't enable hidraw? So that the user can 1) notice that something
> > is wrong 2) blacklist or unbind the driver (or userspace tools that
> > use hidraw can unbind automatically). Otherwise everything seems to be
> > silently broken.
> >
> > On the other hand, maybe races between the kernel driver and userspace
> > tools are unlikely, because the driver doesn't talk to the device
> > continuously - only when sysfs reads happen.
>
> I never noticed any issues of that kind. I actually did quite a lot of
> userspace testing. A result of this a userspace tool you can find here:
> https://github.com/wgottwalt/corsair-psu/tree/main/tools/rmi-hxi-query
>
> Though, if you find a way to trigger such a race condition I have no
> problem to remove the hidraw part.
>
> greetings
> Will
It is possible. Making a userspace tool with just a loop of read/writes
will get you wrong readings in the driver sometimes.
Removing hidraw from the drivers is not a solution, because there are
many userspace tools for these devices and it should be an expected use case
to have them running at the same time (eg OpenRGB for rgb)
I think the correct solution would be to lock hidraw while the
drivers are doing requests.
After a (short) look:
Introducing a mutex in the hidraw struct which would be locked in
hidraw_ioctl and could also be locked in the corsair-psu and
corsair-cpro drivers could be a solution.
If there are no objections or better suggestions, I will try this
over the weekend.
Greetings
Marius
Added Jiri Kosina for hidraw to Cc:
>
> > Added corsair-psu maintainer to Cc:
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 7:14 PM Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 01:11:38PM +0600, Aleksandr Mezin wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 12:27 PM Marius Zachmann <mail@mariuszachmann.de> wrote:
> > > > ...
> > > > > This device uses an echo of the command
> > > > > in the answer and if they don't match it returns an error. This could
> > > > > maybe lead to a false error when the replies are switched, but is
> > > > > probably preferable.
> > > >
> > > > Hm... If the response includes the id of the request, it should be
> > > > possible to filter reports in raw_event, i. e. don't signal completion
> > > > if the report doesn't match, and wait more. Yes, there is a corner
> > > > case, "if a command is not supported, the length value in the reply is
> > > > okay, but the command value is set to 0". But timing out (250 ms) in
> > > > this case should probably be fine... Actually I have a compatible
> > > > Corsair PSU so maybe I'll send a patch.
> > >
> > > Patches to improve the situation are welcome. My understanding is
> > > that with the current driver users should disable the kernel driver
> > > if they plan to use userspace tools to access the device.
> > >
> > > Guenter
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-06-18 6:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-06-17 3:11 corsair-cpro and hidraw Aleksandr Mezin
2021-06-17 4:33 ` Aleksandr Mezin
2021-06-17 6:27 ` Marius Zachmann
2021-06-17 7:11 ` Aleksandr Mezin
2021-06-17 13:14 ` Guenter Roeck
2021-06-17 23:56 ` Aleksandr Mezin
2021-06-18 5:45 ` Wilken Gottwalt
2021-06-18 6:18 ` Marius Zachmann [this message]
2021-06-18 6:47 ` Wilken Gottwalt
2021-06-18 7:06 ` Marius Zachmann
2021-06-18 12:13 ` Guenter Roeck
2021-06-18 12:22 ` Marius Zachmann
2021-06-18 19:41 ` Guenter Roeck
2021-06-18 12:10 ` Guenter Roeck
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