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From: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>
To: Akinobu Mita <akinobu.mita@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-hwmon@vger.kernel.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, Jean Delvare <jdelvare@suse.com>,
	Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>, Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	Billy Tsai <billy_tsai@aspeedtech.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] dt-bindings: hwmon: pwm-fan: add retain-state-shutdown property
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2024 16:18:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e4985609-0642-4ff4-b074-8c5a34f88a24@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAC5umyhCw+62Y+h3Jvh3=0Ocs8XJsSu_vaiPpO_g=65Jo4vUFg@mail.gmail.com>

On 28/10/2024 15:57, Akinobu Mita wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You described the desired Linux feature or behavior, not the actual
>>>> hardware. The bindings are about the latter, so instead you need to
>>>> rephrase the property and its description to match actual hardware
>>>> capabilities/features/configuration etc.
>>>
>>> Is this description okay?
>>> (Reused the description of retain-state-shutdown in leds-gpio.yaml)
>>>
>>> description:
>>>   Retain the state of the PWM on shutdown. Useful in BMC systems, for
>>>   example, when the BMC is rebooted while the host remains up, the fan
>>>   will not stop.
>>
>> Nothing improved in the property. You still say what the system should
>> do. This is user-space choice, not DT.
> 
> It seems better to implement it as a device attribute.

I don't know about that. To repeat: if you say what system is supposed
to be doing, it is a policy. Describe the hardware and its configuration
and maybe this would be suitable for DT.

Best regards,
Krzysztof


  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-30 15:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-26  8:05 [PATCH v2 0/2] hwmon: (pwm-fan) add option to leave fan on shutdown Akinobu Mita
2024-10-26  8:05 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] " Akinobu Mita
2024-10-29  2:34   ` Billy Tsai
2024-10-30 14:55     ` Akinobu Mita
2024-10-30 15:02       ` Guenter Roeck
2024-10-30 15:18         ` Akinobu Mita
2024-10-30 15:30           ` Guenter Roeck
2024-10-26  8:05 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] dt-bindings: hwmon: pwm-fan: add retain-state-shutdown property Akinobu Mita
2024-10-27 20:38   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-10-28 12:42     ` Akinobu Mita
2024-10-28 14:22       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-10-28 14:57         ` Akinobu Mita
2024-10-30 15:18           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski [this message]
2024-10-30 15:34             ` Akinobu Mita
2024-11-04  7:45               ` Billy Tsai
2024-11-04 11:47                 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-11-05  8:16                   ` Billy Tsai
2024-10-26 16:19 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] hwmon: (pwm-fan) add option to leave fan on shutdown Guenter Roeck
2024-10-27  5:31   ` Akinobu Mita

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