Re: [PATCH v2 1/4] drm/vblank: Add vblank timer

[Lyude Paul <lyude@redhat.com>]

A solution down below + some other things you should be aware of :)

On Tue, 2025-09-02 at 16:16 +0200, Thomas Zimmermann wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Am 02.09.25 um 15:27 schrieb Ville Syrjälä:
> > On Mon, Sep 01, 2025 at 01:06:58PM +0200, Thomas Zimmermann wrote:
> > > The vblank timer simulates a vblank interrupt for hardware without
> > > support. Rate-limits the display update frequency.
> > > 
> > > DRM drivers for hardware without vblank support apply display updates
> > > ASAP. A vblank event informs DRM clients of the completed update.
> > > 
> > > Userspace compositors immediately schedule the next update, which
> > > creates significant load on virtualization outputs. Display updates
> > > are usually fast on virtualization outputs, as their framebuffers are
> > > in regular system memory and there's no hardware vblank interrupt to
> > > throttle the update rate.
> > > 
> > > The vblank timer is a HR timer that signals the vblank in software.
> > > It limits the update frequency of a DRM driver similar to a hardware
> > > vblank interrupt. The timer is not synchronized to the actual vblank
> > > interval of the display.
> > > 
> > > The code has been adopted from vkms, which added the funtionality
> > > in commit 3a0709928b17 ("drm/vkms: Add vblank events simulated by
> > > hrtimers").
> > Does this suffer from the same deadlocks as well?
> > https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250510094757.4174662-1-zengheng4@huawei.com/
> 
> Thanks for this pointer. It has not been fixed yet, right? If vkms is 
> affected, this series probably is as well.
> 
> Best regards
> Thomas
> 

Hi! I am glad I saw this mail fly by the list because I actually have a fix
for this deadlock in my very incomplete vkms port to rust:

https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/lyudess/linux/-/blob/rvkms-slim/drivers/gpu/drm/rvkms/crtc.rs#L336

Basically what we do is keep track of when we're reporting a vblank event from
the hrtimer thread we use to emulate vblanks along with if we're trying to
stop the vblank timer:

https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/lyudess/linux/-/blob/rvkms-slim/drivers/gpu/drm/rvkms/crtc.rs#L336

Stopping the timer happens like this:

https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/lyudess/linux/-/blob/rvkms-slim/drivers/gpu/drm/rvkms/crtc.rs#L232

We grab the lock protecting cancelled and reporting, set cancelled, and then
only attempt to cancel the timer if it's not busy reporting. If it is, we
simply leave the timer be and rely on it noticing that cancelled has been set.

The place where we actually unconditionally stop the timer is on
atomic_disable:

https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/lyudess/linux/-/blob/rvkms-slim/drivers/gpu/drm/rvkms/crtc.rs#L136

Which works fine since unlike vblank_disable(), we're outside of the various
vblank_time locks - and thus can wait on hrtimer_cancel() to complete without
worrying about a deadlock.

JFYI, there is one other fix here you might want too. When vkms disables the
vblank timer and then re-enables it later, I'm fairly certain it doesn't
actually schedule the timer for the correct time:

https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/lyudess/linux/-/blob/rvkms-slim/drivers/gpu/drm/vkms/vkms_crtc.c#L68

Notice that it's a relative timer, and in enable_vblank() we schedule the
timer to happen at now + frame_duration. The problem with this is that we
should be rescheduling the hrtimer for when the next vblank would happen in
relation to when the display pipe originally had vblank events enabled - not
in relation to the current time.

In other words: you could have vblanks enabled, disable them, and then
(frame_duration / 2) nanoseconds later re-enable the timer - meaning that
every vblank interrupt is now (frame_duration / 2) nanoseconds offset from
when the vblank interval should actually be occurring. I'm not sure if this
actually breaks anything though, but it certainly doesn't seem correct. To fix
this in rvkms, we keep a timestamp of when we originally enabled the pipe and
do some modulus fun to figure out the exact timestamp for the next vblank
interval:

https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/lyudess/linux/-/blob/rvkms-slim/drivers/gpu/drm/rvkms/crtc.rs#L168

We also use absolute timers instead of relative to really make sure things get
scheduled at just the right tie.

(I will try to port these fixes over to vkms at some point unless someone else
gets to them first…)

> 
-- 
Cheers,
 Lyude Paul (she/her)
 Software Engineer at Red Hat

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