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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 06/41] x86/acrn: Mark TSC frequency as known when using ACRN for calibration
Date: Wed, 20 May 2026 14:02:26 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ag4hYu0O71QrLW2y@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c347d65f555ad1e10a0e87ee57c5879c7046d0e7.camel@infradead.org>

On Wed, May 20, 2026, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Fri, 2026-05-15 at 12:19 -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > Mark the TSC frequency as known when using ACRN's PV CPUID information.
> > Per commit 81a71f51b89e ("x86/acrn: Set up timekeeping") and common sense,
> > the TSC freq is explicitly provided by the hypervisor.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
> > ---
> >  arch/x86/kernel/cpu/acrn.c | 1 +
> >  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
> > 
> > diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/acrn.c b/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/acrn.c
> > index c1506cb87d8c..2da3de4d470e 100644
> > --- a/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/acrn.c
> > +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/acrn.c
> > @@ -29,6 +29,7 @@ static void __init acrn_init_platform(void)
> >  	/* Install system interrupt handler for ACRN hypervisor callback */
> >  	sysvec_install(HYPERVISOR_CALLBACK_VECTOR, sysvec_acrn_hv_callback);
> >  
> > +	setup_force_cpu_cap(X86_FEATURE_TSC_KNOWN_FREQ);
> >  	tsc_register_calibration_routines(acrn_get_tsc_khz,
> >  					  acrn_get_tsc_khz);
> 
> I'd feel slightly happier doing that from within acrn_get_tsc_khz()
> itself....

Ya, though as you note below, this is really a comment on the overall series.

Waiting to set the cap until the calibration routine is actually run does prevent
the case where the something registers a calibration routine, but its routine is
never run.

However, because the cap is sticky, it doesn't handle the scenario where its
routine _does_ run, but the kernel ultimately throws away its calibration in favor
of something else.

Further complicating things is that ~half of the paravirt flows already force set
caps before their routines are invoked:

  snp_secure_tsc_init(), jailhouse_init_platform(), ms_hyperv_init_platform(),
  vmware_set_capabilities()

Rather than trying to convince everyone that waiting is better, despite that
approach still being flawed, I chose to handle this by ensuring that once the TSC
is marked known and/or reliable, the kernel won't replace the calibration routine
with a "lesser" source:

  x86/tsc: Rejects attempts to override TSC calibration with lesser routine

That doesn't completely prevent the kernel from being stupid, but it should prevent
both the case where X's routine is registered but never run, as well as the case
where it's run but ultimately ignored.

> which I note is 'static inline'. I'm vaguely surprised that even builds
> (although it does).

Heh, KVM x86 (in the host) does stupid things like this too.  E.g. kvm_pdptr_read()
is a static inline, but then wired up as a function pointer in three different
places.

> Probably nicer to move it explicitly out of line in acrn.c though.
> 
> Most of that should be a comment on patch  2 of the series, I guess?

  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-20 21:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 123+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-15 19:19 [PATCH v3 00/41] x86: Try to wrangle PV clocks vs. TSC Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 01/41] x86/tsc: Add a standalone helpers for getting TSC info from CPUID.0x15 Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 18:59   ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 02/41] x86/tsc: Add helper to register CPU and TSC freq calibration routines Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 20:06   ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-18 21:59   ` Woodhouse, David
2026-05-20 17:56     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 19:04   ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-20 20:44     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 21:19       ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-20 21:33         ` Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 21:44           ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 03/41] x86/sev: Mark TSC as reliable when configuring Secure TSC Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 19:06   ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 04/41] x86/sev: Move check for SNP Secure TSC support to tsc_early_init() Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 19:16   ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 05/41] x86/tdx: Override PV calibration routines with CPUID-based calibration Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 19:52   ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 06/41] x86/acrn: Mark TSC frequency as known when using ACRN for calibration Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 20:01   ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-20 21:02     ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 07/41] clocksource: hyper-v: Register sched_clock save/restore iff it's necessary Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 21:27   ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 08/41] clocksource: hyper-v: Drop wrappers to sched_clock save/restore helpers Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 21:29   ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 09/41] clocksource: hyper-v: Don't save/restore TSC offset when using HV sched_clock Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 21:30   ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 10/41] x86/kvmclock: Setup kvmclock for secondary CPUs iff CONFIG_SMP=y Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 21:45   ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 11/41] x86/kvm: Don't disable kvmclock on BSP in syscore_suspend() Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 20:34   ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-15 22:29     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 21:51   ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 12/41] x86/paravirt: Remove unnecessary PARAVIRT=n stub for paravirt_set_sched_clock() Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 21:53   ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 13/41] x86/paravirt: Move handling of unstable PV clocks into paravirt_set_sched_clock() Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 21:57   ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 14/41] x86/kvmclock: Move sched_clock save/restore helpers up in kvmclock.c Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 21:59   ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 15/41] x86/xen/time: Nullify x86_platform's sched_clock save/restore hooks Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:48   ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-15 22:43     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 22:11   ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-20 22:54     ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 16/41] x86/vmware: Nullify save/restore hooks when using VMware's sched_clock Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:42   ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-20 22:15   ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 17/41] x86/tsc: WARN if TSC sched_clock save/restore used with PV sched_clock Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:55   ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-20 22:27   ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 18/41] x86/paravirt: Pass sched_clock save/restore helpers during registration Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:56   ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-20 22:35   ` Woodhouse, David
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 19/41] x86/kvmclock: Move kvm_sched_clock_init() down in kvmclock.c Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 22:39   ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 20/41] x86/xen/time: Mark xen_setup_vsyscall_time_info() as __init Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 22:40   ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 21/41] x86/pvclock: Mark setup helpers and related various as __init/__ro_after_init Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 22:43   ` Woodhouse, David
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 22/41] x86/pvclock: WARN if pvclock's valid_flags are overwritten Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 22:44   ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 23/41] x86/kvmclock: Refactor handling of PVCLOCK_TSC_STABLE_BIT during kvmclock_init() Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 22:46   ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 24/41] timekeeping: Resume clocksources before reading persistent clock Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 22:52   ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 25/41] x86/kvmclock: Hook clocksource.suspend/resume when kvmclock isn't sched_clock Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 23:01   ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-20 23:06   ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 26/41] x86/kvmclock: WARN if wall clock is read while kvmclock is suspended Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 23:19   ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 27/41] x86/kvmclock: Enable kvmclock on APs during onlining if kvmclock isn't sched_clock Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:47   ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-18 23:04     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 23:27   ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 28/41] x86/paravirt: Mark __paravirt_set_sched_clock() as __init Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 23:42   ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 29/41] x86/paravirt: Plumb a return code into __paravirt_set_sched_clock() Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:48   ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-18 21:14     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 23:44   ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 30/41] x86/paravirt: Don't use a PV sched_clock in CoCo guests with trusted TSC Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 23:45   ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 31/41] x86/tsc: Pass KNOWN_FREQ and RELIABLE as params to registration Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:45   ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-18 22:18     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-05-19  3:12       ` Michael Kelley
2026-05-20 16:40         ` Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 19:01           ` Michael Kelley
2026-05-20 23:49   ` Woodhouse, David
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 32/41] x86/tsc: Rejects attempts to override TSC calibration with lesser routine Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 20:16   ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-18 19:17     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 23:50   ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 33/41] x86/kvmclock: Mark TSC as reliable when it's constant and nonstop Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 23:51   ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 34/41] KVM: x86: Officially define CPUID 0x40000010 as PV Timing Info (TSC and Bus) Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 35/41] x86/kvmclock: Obtain TSC frequency from CPUID if present Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 36/41] x86/kvmclock: Get local APIC bus frequency from PV CPUID Timing Info Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:55   ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-18 20:57     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 23:55   ` Woodhouse, David
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 37/41] x86/kvmclock: Use TSC for sched_clock if it's constant and non-stop Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 20:09   ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-18 20:28     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 23:56   ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 38/41] x86/paravirt: kvmclock: Setup kvmclock early iff it's sched_clock Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 23:59   ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 39/41] x86/paravirt: Move using_native_sched_clock() stub into timer.h Sean Christopherson
2026-05-21  0:00   ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 40/41] x86/tsc: Add standalone helper for getting CPU frequency from CPUID Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:51   ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-15 23:04     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-05-16  7:42   ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-05-20 18:50     ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 41/41] x86/kvmclock: Get CPU base frequency from CPUID when it's available Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:59   ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-20 21:06     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 18:52   ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-20 19:06     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-05-18 21:11 ` [PATCH v3 00/41] x86: Try to wrangle PV clocks vs. TSC Sean Christopherson
2026-05-18 23:38 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-20 17:59   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 18:30     ` David Woodhouse

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