From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 02/41] x86/tsc: Add helper to register CPU and TSC freq calibration routines
Date: Wed, 20 May 2026 14:33:35 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ag4or9-9c6VZxqya@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <621e10bdc9e297c6c600b561d8fa25c3b62968bc.camel@infradead.org>
On Wed, May 20, 2026, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Wed, 2026-05-20 at 13:44 -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> >
> > + /*
> > + * If the TSC counts at a constant frequency across P/T states, counts
> > + * in deep C-states, and the TSC hasn't been marked unstable, treat the
> > + * TSC reliable, as guaranteed by KVM. Note, the TSC unstable check
> > + * exists purely to honor the TSC being marked unstable via command
> > + * line, any runtime detection of an unstable will happen after this.
> > + */
> > + if (boot_cpu_has(X86_FEATURE_CONSTANT_TSC) &&
> > + boot_cpu_has(X86_FEATURE_NONSTOP_TSC) &&
> > + !check_tsc_unstable())
> {
> > + tsc_properties = TSC_FREQ_KNOWN_AND_RELIABLE;
>
> kvmclock = 0; /* Why use it if the TSC works? The kvmclock exists
> *purely* to work around a TSC which *doesn't*
> have those properties checked above. */
kvmclock still provides SYSTEM_TIME and WALL_CLOCK :-/
> }
>
> I was going to say PVCLOCK_TSC_STABLE_BIT, and maybe we should check
> that *too* for paranoia?
No? PVCLOCK_TSC_STABLE is property of kvmclock more than it's a property of the
TSC itself. And for the no-kvmclock case, we most definitely don't want to setup
kvmclock just to query that flag.
> But hopefully the checks you have above are equivalent?
They aren't as paranoid, but if the host enumerates CONSTANT+NONSTOP TSC despite
KVM-the-host not being able to advertise PVCLOCK_TSC_STABLE_BIT, then the VMM done
messed up.
> > +
> > + kvm_tsc_khz_cpuid = kvm_para_tsc_khz();
> > +
> > + /*
> > + * If provided, use the TSC (and APIC bus) frequency provided in KVM's
> > + * PV CPUID leaf even if kvmclock itself is disabled via command line.
> > + * The PV CPUID information isn't dependent on kvmclock in any way, and
> > + * in fact using the precise information is *more* important when the
> > + * user has explicitly disabled kvmclock to force the kernel to use the
> > + * TSC as its clocksource.
> > + */
> > + if (!kvmclock) {
> > + if (kvm_tsc_khz_cpuid)
> > + tsc_register_calibration_routines(kvm_get_tsc_khz,
> > + kvm_get_cpu_khz,
> > + tsc_properties);
> > + return;
> > + }
> > +
>
>
> Regardless of the above, why not just register these here
> unconditionally, and remove the later call that does the same?
Because if kvmclock=n, it's only safe to call kvm_get_tsc_khz() if kvm_tsc_khz_cpuid
is non-zero, other wise the "else" path will hit a NULL pointer deref when trying
to get the frequency from the PV clock struct:
return kvm_tsc_khz_cpuid ? : pvclock_tsc_khz(this_cpu_pvti());
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-05-20 21:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-05-15 19:19 [PATCH v3 00/41] x86: Try to wrangle PV clocks vs. TSC Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 01/41] x86/tsc: Add a standalone helpers for getting TSC info from CPUID.0x15 Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 18:59 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 02/41] x86/tsc: Add helper to register CPU and TSC freq calibration routines Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 20:06 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-18 21:59 ` Woodhouse, David
2026-05-20 17:56 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 19:04 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-20 20:44 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 21:19 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-20 21:33 ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2026-05-20 21:44 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 03/41] x86/sev: Mark TSC as reliable when configuring Secure TSC Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 19:06 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 04/41] x86/sev: Move check for SNP Secure TSC support to tsc_early_init() Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 19:16 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 05/41] x86/tdx: Override PV calibration routines with CPUID-based calibration Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 19:52 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 06/41] x86/acrn: Mark TSC frequency as known when using ACRN for calibration Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 20:01 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-20 21:02 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 07/41] clocksource: hyper-v: Register sched_clock save/restore iff it's necessary Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 21:27 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 08/41] clocksource: hyper-v: Drop wrappers to sched_clock save/restore helpers Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 21:29 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 09/41] clocksource: hyper-v: Don't save/restore TSC offset when using HV sched_clock Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 21:30 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 10/41] x86/kvmclock: Setup kvmclock for secondary CPUs iff CONFIG_SMP=y Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 21:45 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 11/41] x86/kvm: Don't disable kvmclock on BSP in syscore_suspend() Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 20:34 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-15 22:29 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 21:51 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 12/41] x86/paravirt: Remove unnecessary PARAVIRT=n stub for paravirt_set_sched_clock() Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 21:53 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 13/41] x86/paravirt: Move handling of unstable PV clocks into paravirt_set_sched_clock() Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 21:57 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 14/41] x86/kvmclock: Move sched_clock save/restore helpers up in kvmclock.c Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 21:59 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 15/41] x86/xen/time: Nullify x86_platform's sched_clock save/restore hooks Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:48 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-15 22:43 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 22:11 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 16/41] x86/vmware: Nullify save/restore hooks when using VMware's sched_clock Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:42 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-20 22:15 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 17/41] x86/tsc: WARN if TSC sched_clock save/restore used with PV sched_clock Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:55 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-20 22:27 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 18/41] x86/paravirt: Pass sched_clock save/restore helpers during registration Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:56 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-20 22:35 ` Woodhouse, David
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 19/41] x86/kvmclock: Move kvm_sched_clock_init() down in kvmclock.c Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 22:39 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 20/41] x86/xen/time: Mark xen_setup_vsyscall_time_info() as __init Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 22:40 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 21/41] x86/pvclock: Mark setup helpers and related various as __init/__ro_after_init Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 22/41] x86/pvclock: WARN if pvclock's valid_flags are overwritten Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 23/41] x86/kvmclock: Refactor handling of PVCLOCK_TSC_STABLE_BIT during kvmclock_init() Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 24/41] timekeeping: Resume clocksources before reading persistent clock Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 25/41] x86/kvmclock: Hook clocksource.suspend/resume when kvmclock isn't sched_clock Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 26/41] x86/kvmclock: WARN if wall clock is read while kvmclock is suspended Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 27/41] x86/kvmclock: Enable kvmclock on APs during onlining if kvmclock isn't sched_clock Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:47 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-18 23:04 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 28/41] x86/paravirt: Mark __paravirt_set_sched_clock() as __init Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 29/41] x86/paravirt: Plumb a return code into __paravirt_set_sched_clock() Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:48 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-18 21:14 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 30/41] x86/paravirt: Don't use a PV sched_clock in CoCo guests with trusted TSC Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 31/41] x86/tsc: Pass KNOWN_FREQ and RELIABLE as params to registration Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:45 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-18 22:18 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-05-19 3:12 ` Michael Kelley
2026-05-20 16:40 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 19:01 ` Michael Kelley
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 32/41] x86/tsc: Rejects attempts to override TSC calibration with lesser routine Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 20:16 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-18 19:17 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 33/41] x86/kvmclock: Mark TSC as reliable when it's constant and nonstop Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 34/41] KVM: x86: Officially define CPUID 0x40000010 as PV Timing Info (TSC and Bus) Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 35/41] x86/kvmclock: Obtain TSC frequency from CPUID if present Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 36/41] x86/kvmclock: Get local APIC bus frequency from PV CPUID Timing Info Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:55 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-18 20:57 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 37/41] x86/kvmclock: Use TSC for sched_clock if it's constant and non-stop Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 20:09 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-18 20:28 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 38/41] x86/paravirt: kvmclock: Setup kvmclock early iff it's sched_clock Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 39/41] x86/paravirt: Move using_native_sched_clock() stub into timer.h Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 40/41] x86/tsc: Add standalone helper for getting CPU frequency from CPUID Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:51 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-15 23:04 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-05-16 7:42 ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-05-20 18:50 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 41/41] x86/kvmclock: Get CPU base frequency from CPUID when it's available Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:59 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-20 21:06 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 18:52 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-20 19:06 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-05-18 21:11 ` [PATCH v3 00/41] x86: Try to wrangle PV clocks vs. TSC Sean Christopherson
2026-05-18 23:38 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-20 17:59 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-05-20 18:30 ` David Woodhouse
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