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From: David Mosberger <davidm@napali.hpl.hp.com>
To: linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] I/O MCA recovery
Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 22:51:38 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <16536.7802.708720.962992@napali.hpl.hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200405040954.09524.jbarnes@engr.sgi.com>

>>>>> On Tue, 4 May 2004 15:36:13 -0700, Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@engr.sgi.com> said:

  >>  User-level accesses are mapped via the MMU so you could always
  >> intercept the page-faults.

  Jesse> Wouldn't that mean that on every I/O access we'd have to page
  Jesse> fault, do the I/O, and then invalidate the mapping?  That
  Jesse> seems like a lot of overhead.

Yes.  I doubt it would be an issue for inX/outX emulation in the int10
module.

  Jesse> Also, with this scheme, we could potentially recover from
  Jesse> regular read/writes too.

  >>  _If_ there is an infrastructure what you can hook into, fine.
  >> But I'm highly suspicious of using broken platforms as a
  >> justification for new infrastructure.

  Jesse> Are you describing ia64 as a broken platform here?

Hardly.

  Jesse> The problem I'm trying to solve isn't sn2 specific (though
  Jesse> part of the X stuff I have to do will be driven by sn2
  Jesse> requirements)

I was talking about hard-failure of inX/outX.  If SN2 does that, it's
broken and I'm not terribly sympathetic (but see below).

  Jesse> it's a generic way to deal with hard fails on PIO reads,
  Jesse> which afaik, affects all ia64 platforms.  Correct me if I'm
  Jesse> wrong here...

Let me try to say it differently: inX/outX must soft-fail.  How you
achieve that on SN2, I don't really care.  If, for other reasons,
there happens to be an infrastructure you can hook into to facility
implementation of soft-fail inX/outX on SN2, that's certainly fine by
me.  But don't try to use inX/outX soft-fail as a reason to justify
the infrastructure.  Better?

	--david

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-05-04 22:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-05-04 16:54 [RFC] I/O MCA recovery Jesse Barnes
2004-05-04 17:14 ` Grant Grundler
2004-05-04 17:27 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-05-04 17:43 ` David Mosberger
2004-05-04 17:51 ` Grant Grundler
2004-05-04 18:04 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-05-04 18:07 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-05-04 18:20 ` David Mosberger
2004-05-04 22:36 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-05-04 22:50 ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-05-04 22:51 ` David Mosberger [this message]
2004-05-04 22:58 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-05-04 23:11 ` Grant Grundler
2004-05-04 23:13 ` David Mosberger
2004-05-04 23:15 ` David Mosberger
2004-05-04 23:17 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-05-04 23:18 ` Grant Grundler
2004-05-04 23:23 ` Alex Williamson
2004-05-04 23:31 ` Grant Grundler
2004-05-04 23:31 ` David Mosberger
2004-05-04 23:36 ` Grant Grundler
2004-05-12 19:03 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-05-12 21:11 ` David Mosberger
2004-05-12 21:24 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-05-12 21:35 ` David Mosberger
2004-05-12 21:44 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-05-12 21:52 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-05-12 21:54 ` David Mosberger
2004-05-12 21:59 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-05-13  9:02 ` Luck, Tony
2004-05-13 15:52 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-05-13 16:07 ` Luck, Tony
2004-05-13 16:43 ` Russ Anderson
2004-05-13 16:53 ` Jesse Barnes

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