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* What contributes to IA64 ITC/TOD drift?
@ 2005-02-09  2:27 John Lee
  2005-02-09 19:53 ` David Mosberger
  2005-02-09 22:25 ` John Lee
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: John Lee @ 2005-02-09  2:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-ia64


Maybe too broad a question but,

1. What in IA64 platform contributes to ITC drift?

2. What in IA64 platform contributes to TOD fluctuation?
   (excluding the quality of oscillator)

Thanks,
Jung-Ik Lee
Platform Solutions Inc.

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* Re: What contributes to IA64 ITC/TOD drift?
  2005-02-09  2:27 What contributes to IA64 ITC/TOD drift? John Lee
@ 2005-02-09 19:53 ` David Mosberger
  2005-02-09 22:25 ` John Lee
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: David Mosberger @ 2005-02-09 19:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-ia64

>>>>> On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 18:27:01 -0800, "John Lee" <jlee@platsolns.com> said:

  John> Maybe too broad a question but,

  John> 1. What in IA64 platform contributes to ITC drift?

Are you asking when the IA64_SAL_PLATFORM_FEATURE_ITC_DRIFT bit should
be set?  If so, then the answer is that it should be set whenever the
ITC clocks of the processors in a machine are not driven off the same
oscillator.

  John> 2. What in IA64 platform contributes to TOD fluctuation?
  John> (excluding the quality of oscillator)

NTP comes to mind.  Any other error I can think of probably would lead
to a systematic error, not to fluctuations.

	--david

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* RE: What contributes to IA64 ITC/TOD drift?
  2005-02-09  2:27 What contributes to IA64 ITC/TOD drift? John Lee
  2005-02-09 19:53 ` David Mosberger
@ 2005-02-09 22:25 ` John Lee
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: John Lee @ 2005-02-09 22:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-ia64

Thanks David,

More specifically I'm concerned about ITC/TOD on MCA, PMI, PM, or such
platform behaviors.
Is there any chance that these platform behaviors affect ITC/TOD?
Spec says ITC is unchanged by [SP]AL's MCA|PMI handling and continue to
clock. Does this mean it assures no ITC drift?
If no drift among ITCs, they all still can be equally wrong or off after
the events which mandates TOD recalibration?

> From: David Mosberger [mailto:davidm@napali.hpl.hp.com] 
> >>>>> On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 18:27:01 -0800, "John Lee" 
> <jlee@platsolns.com> said:
> 
>   John> Maybe too broad a question but,
> 
>   John> 1. What in IA64 platform contributes to ITC drift?
> 
> Are you asking when the IA64_SAL_PLATFORM_FEATURE_ITC_DRIFT bit should
> be set?  If so, then the answer is that it should be set whenever the
> ITC clocks of the processors in a machine are not driven off the same
> oscillator.

Yes, I read that in SAL spec update. That should mean that single
oscillator ensures no drift among ITCs.

> 
>   John> 2. What in IA64 platform contributes to TOD fluctuation?
>   John> (excluding the quality of oscillator)
> 
> NTP comes to mind.  Any other error I can think of probably would lead
> to a systematic error, not to fluctuations.

NTP is for calibration when system TOD is off. What causes TOD off? The
above events - MCA, PMI, or such - can affect TOD?

Thanks,
Jung-Ik Lee
Platform Solutions Inc.

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