Problems with the linuxia64.org domain

Problems with the linuxia64.org domain

[n0ano]

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Well, it looks like the problems with the ` linuxia64.org ' domain
just became severe and I have to apologize to all, most of the
blame is my fault.

To recap, originally, VA Software was hosting `linuxia64.org'
and dealing with all of the details associated with the domain
name itself.  When VA changed their product focus (and laid me off
in the process) they still provided hosting for `linuxia64.org'.

A couple of months ago VA moved their computer center and in the process
somehow lost the DNS entry for `linuxia64.org'.  When Matthew Wilcox
pointed this out I contacted VA and asked them to fix this.  My
understanding was that they were working on the problem and it would
be fixed soon.

Imagine my surprise when I checked today and discovered that, although
a DNS entry for `linuxia64.org' is back, it doesn't point to VA.
It looks like VA let the registration lapse and some company called
Speed Edge Technologies has hijacked our domain.

I've attached the email I just sent to VA trying to find out what
happened but I don't know that there's much we can do about it now.
My guess is that the best we can do is register a new name and try
and find a more reliable host for it.

Again I apologize, it's my fault.  I was guilty of misplaced loyalty
to a former employer and a hope that people would do their job.  Looks
like I was wrong.

-- 
Don Dugger
"Censeo Toto nos in Kansa esse decisse." - D. Gale
n0ano@n0ano.com
Ph: 303/447-2201

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From n0ano  Thu Apr 15 10:32:39 2004
From: n0ano@n0ano.com
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 10:31:53 -0600
To: Richard French <rf@osdn.com>
Cc: Don Dugger <n0ano@users.sourceforge.net>,
        Patrick McGovern <pmcgovern@vasoftware.com>
Subject: Re: Problem escalation for bug 844063

Richard-

OK, now I'm REALLY getting ticked.  My understanding is that VA
Software was hosting the `linuxia64.org' domain and that there
were problems in your DNS configuration and I was waiting to let
you resolve them.  Now I discover that on 4/14/04 some company
in Houston, TX has registered `linuxia64.org' and hijacked our
domain.

Would you mind telling me what happened?

On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 10:49:34AM -0800, Richard French wrote:
> Don -
> I have asked Patrick McGovern to provide a status on this.
> -- Richard French
> 
> 
> Don Dugger wrote:
> 
> >I have run out of ideas on how to get a response from the SourceForge 
> >support staff so I'll try bothering you.  I submitted this bug, 844063, on 
> >11/17/03.  Here it is 3 MONTHS later and there has been no progress on the 
> >issue.  What do I need to do to get someone to work on my problem.
> > 
> >
> 
> -- 
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n0ano@n0ano.com
Ph: 303/447-2201

Re: Problems with the linuxia64.org domain

[Matthew Wilcox]

On Thu, Apr 15, 2004 at 10:54:28AM -0600, n0ano@n0ano.com wrote:
> Imagine my surprise when I checked today and discovered that, although
> a DNS entry for `linuxia64.org' is back, it doesn't point to VA.
> It looks like VA let the registration lapse and some company called
> Speed Edge Technologies has hijacked our domain.

That sucks ;-(

Do you still have the content for the linuxia64.org website?  I'd be
interested in integrating it into the ia64-linux.org website.

-- 
"Next the statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting the blame upon 
the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those
conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse
to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince 
himself that the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep 
he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception." -- Mark Twain

Re: Problems with the linuxia64.org domain

[n0ano]

As it turns out I do.  I made a backup on 8/24/03 that should be
pretty current, the web page doesn't change much.  Give me a minute
and I'll send you a tar ball.

On Thu, Apr 15, 2004 at 06:12:04PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 15, 2004 at 10:54:28AM -0600, n0ano@n0ano.com wrote:
> > Imagine my surprise when I checked today and discovered that, although
> > a DNS entry for `linuxia64.org' is back, it doesn't point to VA.
> > It looks like VA let the registration lapse and some company called
> > Speed Edge Technologies has hijacked our domain.
> 
> That sucks ;-(
> 
> Do you still have the content for the linuxia64.org website?  I'd be
> interested in integrating it into the ia64-linux.org website.
> 
> -- 
> "Next the statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting the blame upon 
> the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those
> conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse
> to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince 
> himself that the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep 
> he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception." -- Mark Twain

-- 
Don Dugger
"Censeo Toto nos in Kansa esse decisse." - D. Gale
n0ano@n0ano.com
Ph: 303/447-2201

Re: Problems with the linuxia64.org domain

[Matt Domsch]

On Thu, Apr 15, 2004 at 10:54:28AM -0600, n0ano@n0ano.com wrote:
> Imagine my surprise when I checked today and discovered that, although
> a DNS entry for `linuxia64.org' is back, it doesn't point to VA.
> It looks like VA let the registration lapse and some company called
> Speed Edge Technologies has hijacked our domain.

Have you asked how much they might want to get it back?

-- 
Matt Domsch
Sr. Software Engineer, Lead Engineer
Dell Linux Solutions linux.dell.com & www.dell.com/linux
Linux on Dell mailing lists @ http://lists.us.dell.com

Re: Problems with the linuxia64.org domain

[David Mosberger]

Matthew,

www.ia64-linux.org works, but if I use the URL ia64-linux.org, it
doesn't.  Can you change this?

	--david

Re: Problems with the linuxia64.org domain

[n0ano]

Haven't even thought of pursuing that yet.  I have no idea what they
might want and I also have no idea where the money would come from to
pay them off (in a perfect world VA would resolve this since it was
their mistake that caused it in the first place but I'm not holding
my breath for that to happen).

On Thu, Apr 15, 2004 at 12:26:50PM -0500, Matt Domsch wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 15, 2004 at 10:54:28AM -0600, n0ano@n0ano.com wrote:
> > Imagine my surprise when I checked today and discovered that, although
> > a DNS entry for `linuxia64.org' is back, it doesn't point to VA.
> > It looks like VA let the registration lapse and some company called
> > Speed Edge Technologies has hijacked our domain.
> 
> Have you asked how much they might want to get it back?
> 
> -- 
> Matt Domsch
> Sr. Software Engineer, Lead Engineer
> Dell Linux Solutions linux.dell.com & www.dell.com/linux
> Linux on Dell mailing lists @ http://lists.us.dell.com

-- 
Don Dugger
"Censeo Toto nos in Kansa esse decisse." - D. Gale
n0ano@n0ano.com
Ph: 303/447-2201

Re: Problems with the linuxia64.org domain

[Matt Domsch]

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On Thu, Apr 15, 2004 at 03:18:47PM -0600, n0ano@n0ano.com wrote:
> > Have you asked how much they might want to get it back?
> Haven't even thought of pursuing that yet. 

I sent email to the admin@speededge.com address asking, and called
them, speaking with Steven David.  I expect a call back on Friday from
someone who may know what they want.  (not holding my breath).
They're apparently a reseller of computer services (web hosting,
registration, business planning, ...).  linuxia64.org is redirecting to
java-training.com which is owned by the same company, and which
expired in February...

-- 
Matt Domsch
Sr. Software Engineer, Lead Engineer
Dell Linux Solutions linux.dell.com & www.dell.com/linux
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Re: Problems with the linuxia64.org domain

[Tim Potter]

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On Thu, Apr 15, 2004 at 05:22:05PM -0500, Matt Domsch wrote:

> registration, business planning, ...).  linuxia64.org is redirecting to
> java-training.com which is owned by the same company, and which
> expired in February...

Why don't you reregister java-training.com and swap it for linuxia64.org?


Tim.

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Re: Problems with the linuxia64.org domain

[Matt Domsch]

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On Fri, Apr 16, 2004 at 09:55:44AM +1000, Tim Potter wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 15, 2004 at 05:22:05PM -0500, Matt Domsch wrote:
> 
> > registration, business planning, ...).  linuxia64.org is redirecting to
> > java-training.com which is owned by the same company, and which
> > expired in February...
> 
> Why don't you reregister java-training.com and swap it for linuxia64.org?

My thought exactly, but though it's showing as expired, the registrars
all claim it's taken still.  The registrar is messed up, as they think
it was last updated 7 months from now too...

| Registrar: DomainTheNet.com
|
| Domain Name: java-training.com
| Created on ............. 26-nov-2003
| Expires on ............. Feb 17 2004  3:17AM
| Record last updated on . 26-nov-2004
| Status .................LOCK

I'm sure it's not really expired.

-- 
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Sr. Software Engineer, Lead Engineer
Dell Linux Solutions linux.dell.com & www.dell.com/linux
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Re: Problems with the linuxia64.org domain

[Matthew Wilcox]

On Thu, Apr 15, 2004 at 10:35:07AM -0700, David Mosberger wrote:
> Matthew,
> 
> www.ia64-linux.org works, but if I use the URL ia64-linux.org, it
> doesn't.  Can you change this?

Fixed now.  It took a while for stale DNS to purge out of my cache,
but it works for me now from my home system.

-- 
"Next the statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting the blame upon 
the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those
conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse
to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince 
himself that the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep 
he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception." -- Mark Twain

Re: Problems with the linuxia64.org domain

[Matt Domsch]

On Thu, Apr 15, 2004 at 05:22:05PM -0500, Matt Domsch wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 15, 2004 at 03:18:47PM -0600, n0ano@n0ano.com wrote:
> > > Have you asked how much they might want to get it back?
> > Haven't even thought of pursuing that yet. 
> 
> I sent email to the admin@speededge.com address asking

I got a mail from the admin address:

From: "Admin" <admin@speededge.com>
Subject: RE: linuxia64.org domain registration    
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 07:07:05 -0500

Hello Matt,

Thank you for your inquiry into the Domain Name
linuxia64.org. We did not acquire this domain name for the
purpose of selling the domain name.  However, at your request,
we will appraise the value of linuxia64.org.  This appraisal will
take five business days.            

If the previous domain name owners would like to make an offer
for linuxia64.org, please reply to this Email message with that offer.
Otherwise, we will contact you when the linuxia64.org appraisal is
complete.


Best Regards,         
Wayne



We'll see what they come back with...   It's not clear *why* they did
purchase the name, except to grab additional traffic.
-Matt

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Sr. Software Engineer, Lead Engineer
Dell Linux Solutions linux.dell.com & www.dell.com/linux
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Re: Problems with the linuxia64.org domain

[David Mosberger]

>>>>> On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 20:10:21 +0100, Matthew Wilcox <willy@debian.org> said:

  Matthew> On Thu, Apr 15, 2004 at 10:35:07AM -0700, David Mosberger
  Matthew> wrote:

  >> www.ia64-linux.org works, but if I use the URL ia64-linux.org, it
  >> doesn't.  Can you change this?

  Matthew> Fixed now.  It took a while for stale DNS to purge out of
  Matthew> my cache, but it works for me now from my home system.

Now it works here, too.

Thanks!

	--david

PS: In http://ia64-linux.org/processors.html, it says:
    "FSB ran at a quad-pumped 200MHz" shouldn't this be
    "the 128-bit wide FSB ran at a dual-pumped 200MHz"?

Re: Problems with the linuxia64.org domain

[Andreas Schwab]

Matthew Wilcox <willy@debian.org> writes:

> On Thu, Apr 15, 2004 at 10:35:07AM -0700, David Mosberger wrote:
>> Matthew,
>> 
>> www.ia64-linux.org works, but if I use the URL ia64-linux.org, it
>> doesn't.  Can you change this?
>
> Fixed now.  It took a while for stale DNS to purge out of my cache,
> but it works for me now from my home system.

Still can't get an address for ia64-linux.org.  tld1.ultradns.net says
that ns2.infradead.org, ns1.infradead.org and ns0.infradead.org are
authoritative for ia64-linux.org, but only ns0.infradead.org actually
returns an A record for ia64-linux.org, the other two return nothing.

Andreas.

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