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From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: removing mm->rss and mm->anon_rss from kernel?
Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 20:05:09 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041106200509.GG2890@holomorphy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0411060812390.25369@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>

On Sat, Nov 06, 2004 at 08:19:55AM -0800, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> Yes but I think this is preferable because of the generally faster
> operations of the vm without having to continually update statistics. And
> these statistics seem to be quite difficult to properly generate (why else
> introduce anon_rss). Without the counters other optimizations are easier
> to do.
> Doing a ps is not a frequent event. Of course this may cause
> significant load if one does regularly access /proc entities then. Are
> there any threads from the past with some numbers of what the impact was
> when we calculated rss via proc?

It was catastrophic. Failure of monitoring tools to make forward
progress, long-lived delays of "victim" processes whose locks were held
by /proc/ observers, and the like.


On Sat, Nov 06, 2004 at 08:19:55AM -0800, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> That has its own complications and would require lots of memory with
> systems that already have up to 10k cpus.

Split counters are a solved problem, even for the 10K cpus case.


-- wli

  reply	other threads:[~2004-11-06 20:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2004-11-06  9:28               ` removing mm->rss and mm->anon_rss from kernel? Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                 ` <204290000.1099754257@[10.10.2.4]>
2004-11-06 16:19                   ` Christoph Lameter
2004-11-06 20:05                     ` William Lee Irwin III [this message]
2004-11-07 16:11                     ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-11-07 18:25                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2004-11-08 12:43                         ` Jesse Barnes
2004-11-08 15:26                         ` Andi Kleen
2004-11-08 16:07                           ` Christoph Lameter
2004-11-08 16:04                       ` Christoph Lameter
2004-11-08 16:12                         ` Anton Blanchard
2004-11-08 16:14                         ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-11-08 16:25                           ` Christoph Lameter
2004-11-08 16:30                         ` Erich Focht
2004-11-08 16:57                           ` Diego Calleja
2004-11-08 17:26                             ` Erich Focht
2004-11-10 11:57                         ` Magnus Damm
2004-11-06 20:51                 ` Rik van Riel
2004-11-08 15:47                 ` Russ Anderson
2004-11-08 16:08                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-11-10  4:52                   ` Nick Piggin
2004-11-10 17:30                     ` Robin Holt
2004-11-10 18:50                     ` Ray Bryant
2004-11-12 23:45                     ` Ray Bryant
2004-11-13  0:05                       ` Steve Neuner
2004-11-08 16:35                 ` Rik van Riel
2004-11-08 16:56                 ` Hugh Dickins
2004-11-08 17:01                   ` Christoph Lameter
2004-11-09  2:40                     ` Nick Piggin
2004-11-09 12:10                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2004-11-10  0:48                         ` Nick Piggin
2004-11-12  0:38                 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-11-12 12:50                 ` Robin Holt
2004-11-12 15:02                 ` Christoph Lameter

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