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From: "Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@aracnet.com>
To: Ray Bryant <raybry@sgi.com>, Andy Whitcroft <apw@shadowen.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: anton@samba.org, sds@epoch.ncsc.mil, ak@suse.de,
	lse-tech@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [0/6] HUGETLB memory commitment
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 19:10:05 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <98220000.1080501001@[10.10.2.4]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4067131A.7000405@sgi.com>

> As I understood this originally, the suggestion was to reserve hugetlb 
> pages at mmap() or shm_get() time so that the user would get an -ENOMEM 
> at that time if there aren't enough hugetlb pages to (eventually) satisfy 
> the request, as per the notion that we shouldn't modify the user API due 
> to going with allocate on fault instead of hugetlb_prefault().

Yup, but there were two parts to it:

1. Stop hugepages using the existing overcommit pool for small pages, 
which breaks small page allocations by prematurely the pool.
2. Give hugepages their own over-commit pool, instead of prefaulting.

Personally I think we need both (as you seem to), but (1) is probably
more urgent.

> Since the reservation belongs to the mapped object (file or segment), 
> I've been storing the current file/segments's reservation in the file 
> system dependent part of the inode.  That way, it is easily accessible 
> when the hugetlbfs file or SysV segment is removed and we can reduce 
> the total number of reserved pages by that file's reservation at that 
> time.  This also allows us to handle the reservation in the absence 
> of a vma, as per Andy'c comment below.

Do we need to store it there, or is one central pool number sufficient?
I would have thought it was ...

> Admittedly this doesn't alow one to request that hugetlbpages be 
> overcommitted, or to handle problems caused to the "normal" page 
> overcommit code due to the presence of hugepages.  But we figure that 
> anyone that is actually using hugetlb pages is likely to take over 
> almost all of main memory anyway in a single job, so overcommit 
> doesn't make much sense to us.

Seeing as you can't swap them, overcommitting makes no sense to me
either ;-)

M.


  reply	other threads:[~2004-03-28 19:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-03-25 16:54 [PATCH] [0/6] HUGETLB memory commitment Andy Whitcroft
2004-03-25 16:58 ` [PATCH] [1/6] " Andy Whitcroft
2004-03-25 16:59 ` [PATCH] [2/6] " Andy Whitcroft
2004-03-25 17:00 ` [PATCH] [3/6] " Andy Whitcroft
2004-03-25 17:01 ` [PATCH] [4/6] " Andy Whitcroft
2004-03-25 17:02 ` [PATCH] [5/6] " Andy Whitcroft
2004-03-25 17:03 ` [PATCH] [6/6] " Andy Whitcroft
2004-03-25 21:04 ` [PATCH] [0/6] " Andrew Morton
2004-03-25 23:27   ` Andy Whitcroft
2004-03-25 23:51     ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-25 23:59       ` Andy Whitcroft
2004-03-26  2:01         ` Andy Whitcroft
2004-03-26  0:18       ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-03-28 18:02     ` Ray Bryant
2004-03-28 19:10       ` Martin J. Bligh [this message]
2004-03-28 21:32         ` [Lse-tech] " Ray Bryant
2004-03-29 16:50           ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-03-29 12:30         ` Andy Whitcroft
2004-03-26  0:10 ` Keith Owens
2004-03-26  0:22   ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-26  3:41     ` [Lse-tech] " Suparna Bhattacharya
2004-03-26  3:39       ` Keith Owens
2004-03-26 11:45         ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2004-03-29 20:45 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2004-03-29 20:49 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2004-03-30 12:57   ` Andy Whitcroft
2004-03-30 20:04 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2004-03-30 21:48   ` Andy Whitcroft
2004-03-31  1:48     ` Andy Whitcroft
2004-03-31  8:51 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2004-03-31 16:20   ` Andy Whitcroft
2004-04-01 21:15   ` Andy Whitcroft
2004-04-01 22:50     ` Andy Whitcroft
2004-04-01 23:09 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2004-04-03  3:57   ` [PATCH] " Ray Bryant
2004-04-04  3:31     ` Chen, Kenneth W
2004-04-04 22:15       ` Ray Bryant
2004-04-05 15:26       ` [Lse-tech] " Ray Bryant
2004-04-05 17:01         ` Chen, Kenneth W
2004-04-05 18:22           ` Ray Bryant
2004-04-05 23:18         ` Chen, Kenneth W
2004-04-06  1:05           ` Ray Bryant
2004-04-06 16:14           ` Andy Whitcroft
2004-04-06 17:40         ` Chen, Kenneth W

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