[Linux-ia64] USB Support

[Linux-ia64] USB Support

[Jonathan_Kwahk]

Is there any USB support in the installation yet? Or any at all?

J

Re: [Linux-ia64] USB Support

[Johannes Erdfelt]

On Tue, Jun 13, 2000, Jonathan_Kwahk@Dell.com <Jonathan_Kwahk@Dell.com> wrote:
> Is there any USB support in the installation yet? Or any at all?

I haven't extensively tested this since all of the ia64 machines I have
worked on have had PS/2 keyboards installed.

There is 2 parts. The first is support in the BIOS and EFI. I have not
tested this and I do not know if this works, but many ia32 machines do
support this and I expect ia64 machines to as well.

The second is the kernel. TurboLinux AFAICT compiles their kernels with
USB support. It should support USB keyboards during install and after
install. However, I have not tested this yet.

I don't know if RedHat has compiled USB support into their kernel, but I
suspect they do.

JE

RE: [Linux-ia64] USB Support

[Jonathan_Kwahk]

BIOS builds 47 and 50 (with PAL50) does support SOME USB keyboards.  I have
had problems with the Microsoft (real nice one with Explorer keys) keyboard,
but the MS Elite USB keyboard works in the EFI shell.

I believe it's somewhat hardware/BIOS for the incompatibility.

TurboLinux 0505 build does NOT support USB keyboards with the installer.

RedHat's latest build hasn't been tested by me, yet.

J

-----Original Message-----
From: Johannes Erdfelt [mailto:jerdfelt@valinux.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 1:16 PM
To: Jonathan_Kwahk@exchange.dell.com
Cc: linux-ia64@linuxia64.org
Subject: Re: [Linux-ia64] USB Support


On Tue, Jun 13, 2000, Jonathan_Kwahk@Dell.com <Jonathan_Kwahk@Dell.com>
wrote:
> Is there any USB support in the installation yet? Or any at all?

I haven't extensively tested this since all of the ia64 machines I have
worked on have had PS/2 keyboards installed.

There is 2 parts. The first is support in the BIOS and EFI. I have not
tested this and I do not know if this works, but many ia32 machines do
support this and I expect ia64 machines to as well.

The second is the kernel. TurboLinux AFAICT compiles their kernels with
USB support. It should support USB keyboards during install and after
install. However, I have not tested this yet.

I don't know if RedHat has compiled USB support into their kernel, but I
suspect they do.

JE

Re: [Linux-ia64] USB Support

[Johannes Erdfelt]

On Tue, Jun 13, 2000, Jonathan_Kwahk@Dell.com <Jonathan_Kwahk@Dell.com> wrote:
> BIOS builds 47 and 50 (with PAL50) does support SOME USB keyboards.  I have
> had problems with the Microsoft (real nice one with Explorer keys) keyboard,
> but the MS Elite USB keyboard works in the EFI shell.
> 
> I believe it's somewhat hardware/BIOS for the incompatibility.

Could be. The BIOS is most likely using the HID boot protocol which is
minimal enough that fixing any problems shouldn't be too difficult.

> TurboLinux 0505 build does NOT support USB keyboards with the installer.

Ahh. My 0406 and 0505 build systems have USB support with one of the
keyboard drivers. I thought they used the same kernel to install as
they did after the install.

> RedHat's latest build hasn't been tested by me, yet.

Nor here.

JE

Re: [Linux-ia64] USB Support

[Eric Wang]

During the machine boot up period, the USB keyboard could not work, so you 
should connect both PS/2 and USB Mouse and Keyboard on the machine. After 
boot up, install TurboLinux build 5.5 (May 5?), it will install the USB 
keyboard driver. After the installation, start the Turbolinux OS, startx, 
you will see the USB keyboard is active. But the USB mouse could not work.

Eric




>From: Johannes Erdfelt <jerdfelt@valinux.com>
>To: Jonathan_Kwahk@Dell.com
>CC: linux-ia64@linuxia64.org
>Subject: Re: [Linux-ia64] USB Support
>Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 11:15:34 -0700
>
>On Tue, Jun 13, 2000, Jonathan_Kwahk@Dell.com <Jonathan_Kwahk@Dell.com> 
>wrote:
> > Is there any USB support in the installation yet? Or any at all?
>
>I haven't extensively tested this since all of the ia64 machines I have
>worked on have had PS/2 keyboards installed.
>
>There is 2 parts. The first is support in the BIOS and EFI. I have not
>tested this and I do not know if this works, but many ia32 machines do
>support this and I expect ia64 machines to as well.
>
>The second is the kernel. TurboLinux AFAICT compiles their kernels with
>USB support. It should support USB keyboards during install and after
>install. However, I have not tested this yet.
>
>I don't know if RedHat has compiled USB support into their kernel, but I
>suspect they do.
>
>JE
>
>
>
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Re: [Linux-ia64] USB Support

[Johannes Erdfelt]

On Thu, Jun 15, 2000, Eric Wang <ericwang25@hotmail.com> wrote:
> During the machine boot up period, the USB keyboard could not work, so you 
> should connect both PS/2 and USB Mouse and Keyboard on the machine. After 
> boot up, install TurboLinux build 5.5 (May 5?), it will install the USB 
> keyboard driver. After the installation, start the Turbolinux OS, startx, 
> you will see the USB keyboard is active. But the USB mouse could not work.

"Could not work" is pretty strong language. I don't see any reason why it
could not work. Perhaps it's not just not implemented now?

I know X can work with a USB mouse, but it needs to be configured properly,
including the appropriate device nodes being created.

JE

Re: [Linux-ia64] USB Support

[David Mosberger]

I've been using USB on my main IA-64 workstation for months now and it
has worked without a hitch.  Both the keyboard and mouse are USB, so
there is no problem there.  The only thing that doesn't seem to be
supported is to "mix" a regular PS/2 and a USB mouse into a single
device (as is the case for the keyboard).  On my machine, /dev/mouse
is a symlink to /dev/input/mousemix and mousemix is the following
special device:

 crw-r--r--   1 root     root      13,  63 Apr 27 17:52 /dev/input/mousemix

That plus the right kernel configuration options and XF86Config file
should be all it takes for a USB mouse to work.

	--david

>>>>> On Thu, 15 Jun 2000 10:47:29 -0700, Johannes Erdfelt <jerdfelt@valinux.com> said:

  Johannes> On Thu, Jun 15, 2000, Eric Wang <ericwang25@hotmail.com>
  Johannes> wrote:
  >> During the machine boot up period, the USB keyboard could not
  >> work, so you should connect both PS/2 and USB Mouse and Keyboard
  >> on the machine. After boot up, install TurboLinux build 5.5 (May
  >> 5?), it will install the USB keyboard driver. After the
  >> installation, start the Turbolinux OS, startx, you will see the
  >> USB keyboard is active. But the USB mouse could not work.

  Johannes> "Could not work" is pretty strong language. I don't see
  Johannes> any reason why it could not work. Perhaps it's not just
  Johannes> not implemented now?

  Johannes> I know X can work with a USB mouse, but it needs to be
  Johannes> configured properly, including the appropriate device
  Johannes> nodes being created.

  Johannes> JE



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RE: [Linux-ia64] USB Support

[Jonathan_Kwahk]

I think USB keyboard upon boot up and EFI shell is dependent on the firmware
build you have as well as the hardware revision.  I have gotten certain USB
keyboards and mice to work within the BIOS configuration manager and EFI
Shell.   However, when you run ELI vmlinux it'll report an error.  With
PS/2, you get farther along the installation (complete it).

Someone has recommended that I download all the patches and updates,
recompile the kernel, and install it.

So far, USB mouse/keyboard doesn't work IN the installation.  I'm not
talking about the kernel load or the OS itself.  Just the installation.
Turbolinux 0505.

I'll see what happens when I get the updates recompiled.

Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: Johannes Erdfelt [mailto:jerdfelt@valinux.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 12:47 PM
To: Eric Wang
Cc: linux-ia64@linuxia64.org
Subject: Re: [Linux-ia64] USB Support


On Thu, Jun 15, 2000, Eric Wang <ericwang25@hotmail.com> wrote:
> During the machine boot up period, the USB keyboard could not work, so you

> should connect both PS/2 and USB Mouse and Keyboard on the machine. After 
> boot up, install TurboLinux build 5.5 (May 5?), it will install the USB 
> keyboard driver. After the installation, start the Turbolinux OS, startx, 
> you will see the USB keyboard is active. But the USB mouse could not work.

"Could not work" is pretty strong language. I don't see any reason why it
could not work. Perhaps it's not just not implemented now?

I know X can work with a USB mouse, but it needs to be configured properly,
including the appropriate device nodes being created.

JE



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Re: [Linux-ia64] USB Support

[Johannes Erdfelt]

On Thu, Jun 15, 2000, Jonathan_Kwahk@Dell.com <Jonathan_Kwahk@Dell.com> wrote:
> I think USB keyboard upon boot up and EFI shell is dependent on the firmware
> build you have as well as the hardware revision.  I have gotten certain USB
> keyboards and mice to work within the BIOS configuration manager and EFI
> Shell.   However, when you run ELI vmlinux it'll report an error.  With
> PS/2, you get farther along the installation (complete it).

I'm interested in finding out what errors you're seeing. ELI uses the
standard Text Input protocol which EFI should handle regardless if it's
PS/2 or USB.

> Someone has recommended that I download all the patches and updates,
> recompile the kernel, and install it.

I'll try this as well.

> So far, USB mouse/keyboard doesn't work IN the installation.  I'm not
> talking about the kernel load or the OS itself.  Just the installation.
> Turbolinux 0505.

Gotcha. I haven't tried this. I don't know why this wouldn't work except
for explicitily not compiling in USB for the install kernel.

> I'll see what happens when I get the updates recompiled.

JE

RE: [Linux-ia64] USB Support

[Jonathan_Kwahk]

I've also noticed how certain USB keyboards will hang the system (POST 80:
0x54).
If you hard reset the system, it'll get stuck on Post 80: 0xFF.

Anyways, the BIOS USB support code is broken in certain places.  It may
account for the erratic behavior I've been seeing in the EFI shell with the
USB keyboard (which in turn would affect the Turbolinux 0505 installation).

Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: Johannes Erdfelt [mailto:jerdfelt@valinux.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 3:19 PM
To: Jonathan_Kwahk@exchange.dell.com
Cc: ericwang25@hotmail.com; linux-ia64@linuxia64.org
Subject: Re: [Linux-ia64] USB Support


On Thu, Jun 15, 2000, Jonathan_Kwahk@Dell.com <Jonathan_Kwahk@Dell.com>
wrote:
> I think USB keyboard upon boot up and EFI shell is dependent on the
firmware
> build you have as well as the hardware revision.  I have gotten certain
USB
> keyboards and mice to work within the BIOS configuration manager and EFI
> Shell.   However, when you run ELI vmlinux it'll report an error.  With
> PS/2, you get farther along the installation (complete it).

I'm interested in finding out what errors you're seeing. ELI uses the
standard Text Input protocol which EFI should handle regardless if it's
PS/2 or USB.

> Someone has recommended that I download all the patches and updates,
> recompile the kernel, and install it.

I'll try this as well.

> So far, USB mouse/keyboard doesn't work IN the installation.  I'm not
> talking about the kernel load or the OS itself.  Just the installation.
> Turbolinux 0505.

Gotcha. I haven't tried this. I don't know why this wouldn't work except
for explicitily not compiling in USB for the install kernel.

> I'll see what happens when I get the updates recompiled.

JE