* [Linux-ia64] New rev 2.1 SDM for Itanium published
@ 2002-11-21 15:47 Mallick, Asit K
2002-11-22 9:12 ` Matt Chapman
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From: Mallick, Asit K @ 2002-11-21 15:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-ia64
All,
The latest SDM rev 2.1 for Itanium is available in Intel's web-site
(http://developer.intel.com/design/itanium/family/, then click on "Software
Specifications" in the left-hand bar). This version includes the 3 new
instructions:
- atomic ops (16 byte compare and exchange)
- fc.i (flush cache with instruction cache coherent form)
- hint (performance hint)
Thanks,
Asit
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* Re: [Linux-ia64] New rev 2.1 SDM for Itanium published
2002-11-21 15:47 [Linux-ia64] New rev 2.1 SDM for Itanium published Mallick, Asit K
@ 2002-11-22 9:12 ` Matt Chapman
2002-11-22 18:08 ` Jim Hull
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From: Matt Chapman @ 2002-11-22 9:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-ia64
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 07:47:11AM -0800, Mallick, Asit K wrote:
> This version includes the 3 new instructions:
> - atomic ops (16 byte compare and exchange)
I presume this one is not backwards-compatible with existing processor
implementations? If so, should this be noted somewhere so that naive
people who read the manuals don't assume that it's implemented?
Matt
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* RE: [Linux-ia64] New rev 2.1 SDM for Itanium published
2002-11-21 15:47 [Linux-ia64] New rev 2.1 SDM for Itanium published Mallick, Asit K
2002-11-22 9:12 ` Matt Chapman
@ 2002-11-22 18:08 ` Jim Hull
2002-11-22 18:27 ` David Mosberger
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From: Jim Hull @ 2002-11-22 18:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-ia64
Matt wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 07:47:11AM -0800, Mallick, Asit K wrote:
> > This version includes the 3 new instructions:
> > - atomic ops (16 byte compare and exchange)
>
> I presume this one is not backwards-compatible with existing processor
> implementations?
Correct.
> If so, should this be noted somewhere so that naive
> people who read the manuals don't assume that it's implemented?
There is a new "ao" bit in CPUID[4], which as described on p. 1:32, will
be 1 only if the new larger atomic ops are implemented. Do you think
this is insufficient?
-- Jim
HP IPF Processor Architect
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* RE: [Linux-ia64] New rev 2.1 SDM for Itanium published
2002-11-21 15:47 [Linux-ia64] New rev 2.1 SDM for Itanium published Mallick, Asit K
2002-11-22 9:12 ` Matt Chapman
2002-11-22 18:08 ` Jim Hull
@ 2002-11-22 18:27 ` David Mosberger
2002-11-22 19:02 ` Jim Hull
2002-11-22 20:07 ` Bjorn Helgaas
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From: David Mosberger @ 2002-11-22 18:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-ia64
>>>>> On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 10:08:39 -0800, "Jim Hull" <jim_hull@hp.com> said:
>> If so, should this be noted somewhere so that naive
>> people who read the manuals don't assume that it's implemented?
Jim> There is a new "ao" bit in CPUID[4], which as described on p. 1:32, will
Jim> be 1 only if the new larger atomic ops are implemented. Do you think
Jim> this is insufficient?
The ao bit seems to have gotten lost in the final version of SDM2.1.
It's mentioned (indirectly) in the Document Revision history, but in
the CPUID[4] description, only "branchlong" and "spontaneous deferral"
show up.
--david
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* RE: [Linux-ia64] New rev 2.1 SDM for Itanium published
2002-11-21 15:47 [Linux-ia64] New rev 2.1 SDM for Itanium published Mallick, Asit K
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2002-11-22 18:27 ` David Mosberger
@ 2002-11-22 19:02 ` Jim Hull
2002-11-22 20:07 ` Bjorn Helgaas
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From: Jim Hull @ 2002-11-22 19:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-ia64
David wrote:
> The ao bit seems to have gotten lost in the final version of SDM2.1.
> It's mentioned (indirectly) in the Document Revision history, but in
> the CPUID[4] description, only "branchlong" and "spontaneous deferral"
> show up.
You're right, the "ao" bit is missing from the final public SDM 2.1. I
wonder how that happened. I'll check into this and see if I can get it
fixed.
-- Jim
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* Re: [Linux-ia64] New rev 2.1 SDM for Itanium published
2002-11-21 15:47 [Linux-ia64] New rev 2.1 SDM for Itanium published Mallick, Asit K
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2002-11-22 19:02 ` Jim Hull
@ 2002-11-22 20:07 ` Bjorn Helgaas
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From: Bjorn Helgaas @ 2002-11-22 20:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-ia64
On Friday 22 November 2002 11:27 am, David Mosberger wrote:
> >>>>> On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 10:08:39 -0800, "Jim Hull" <jim_hull@hp.com> said:
>
> >> If so, should this be noted somewhere so that naive
> >> people who read the manuals don't assume that it's implemented?
>
> Jim> There is a new "ao" bit in CPUID[4], which as described on p. 1:32, will
> Jim> be 1 only if the new larger atomic ops are implemented. Do you think
> Jim> this is insufficient?
>
> The ao bit seems to have gotten lost in the final version of SDM2.1.
> It's mentioned (indirectly) in the Document Revision history, but in
> the CPUID[4] description, only "branchlong" and "spontaneous deferral"
> show up.
Also, seems like the cmp8xchg16 instruction description ought to
mention that not all implementations support the instruction.
At least, that's what was done for "brl".
--
Bjorn Helgaas - bjorn_helgaas at hp.com
Linux and Open Source Lab
Hewlett-Packard Company
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