From: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
To: linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Linux-ia64] Re: 64 Bits DMA Addresses for Alloc Consistent
Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 23:39:40 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <marc-linux-ia64-105590723705856@msgid-missing> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <marc-linux-ia64-105590723705823@msgid-missing>
From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@debian.org>
Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 22:29:18 +0100
From the way he's talking,
My main point is that device attributes belong IN THE DEVICE
not in some umpteenth new parameter to the DMA interfaces.
Just put consistent_dma_mask into the device struct next to
the existing dma_mask, voila problem solved.
I have two major problems with the generic DMA interfaces
and how they are being handled in general:
1) Their use is entirely inappropriate in unary-bus devices.
There is no way someone can justify some PCI driver continually
asking itself whether it is a PCI device or not on each DMA
API call.
2) Additions to the parameters in the interfaces is not given
enough thought. Each new parameter you add is a discrete failure
of the API. It was built to be simple, and new parameters do
nothing but add complexity.
I cannot even fathom that someone would suggest to pass device
attributes into the DMA interfaces. That is just garbage and
unnecessary bloat.
Finally, I see nobody tackling the real hard bugs we have in the DMA
API. These should be fixed first before adding random DMA behaviorial
attributes. For example, pci_dma_sync_*() sucks because it only syncs
in one direction, device to cpu, there is nothing available to sync
things back from cpu-->device. This prevents MIPS from using the
devices that need to do syncs without unmaps (eepro100 is but one
example, USB host controller drivers want this too).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-05-15 23:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-05-15 14:44 [Linux-ia64] Re: 64 Bits DMA Addresses for Alloc Consistent Interfaces Colin Ngam
2003-05-15 14:44 ` James Bottomley
2003-05-15 15:05 ` Colin Ngam
2003-05-15 15:06 ` David Mosberger
2003-05-15 15:12 ` James Bottomley
2003-05-15 15:47 ` David Mosberger
2003-05-15 15:48 ` David Mosberger
2003-05-15 15:48 ` Colin Ngam
2003-05-15 15:50 ` Colin Ngam
2003-05-15 19:06 ` Grant Grundler
2003-05-15 19:14 ` David Mosberger
2003-05-15 19:16 ` Grant Grundler
2003-05-15 19:29 ` Grant Grundler
2003-05-15 20:07 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-15 20:15 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-15 20:19 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-15 20:24 ` Jesse Barnes
2003-05-15 21:17 ` Grant Grundler
2003-05-15 21:29 ` Matthew Wilcox
2003-05-15 22:14 ` Colin Ngam
2003-05-15 22:44 ` Colin Ngam
2003-05-15 22:47 ` James Bottomley
2003-05-15 23:24 ` James Bottomley
2003-05-15 23:25 ` Colin Ngam
2003-05-15 23:27 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-15 23:32 ` Colin Ngam
2003-05-15 23:39 ` David S. Miller [this message]
2003-05-15 23:40 ` Colin Ngam
2003-05-15 23:40 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-15 23:41 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-15 23:42 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-15 23:45 ` Colin Ngam
2003-05-15 23:46 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-15 23:51 ` Colin Ngam
2003-05-15 23:53 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-15 23:57 ` Colin Ngam
2003-05-16 0:03 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-16 0:06 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-16 0:11 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-16 0:17 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-16 0:29 ` Jesse Barnes
2003-05-16 0:31 ` James Bottomley
2003-05-16 0:31 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-16 0:32 ` Colin Ngam
2003-05-16 0:32 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-16 0:36 ` Colin Ngam
2003-05-16 0:37 ` Jesse Barnes
2003-05-16 0:48 ` Colin Ngam
2003-05-16 0:59 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-16 1:20 ` Grant Grundler
2003-05-16 1:23 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-16 1:51 ` Grant Grundler
2003-05-16 1:59 ` Colin Ngam
2003-05-16 2:05 ` [Linux-ia64] Re: 64 Bits DMA Addresses for Alloc Consistent James Bottomley
2003-05-16 2:08 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-16 2:26 ` James Bottomley
2003-05-16 2:32 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-16 6:47 ` [Linux-ia64] Re: 64 Bits DMA Addresses for Alloc Consistent Interfaces Jeremy Higdon
2003-05-16 6:55 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-16 7:15 ` Jeremy Higdon
2003-05-16 7:35 ` Jeremy Higdon
2003-05-16 7:48 ` Jeremy Higdon
2003-05-16 7:53 ` [Linux-ia64] Re: 64 Bits DMA Addresses for Alloc Consistent David S. Miller
2003-05-16 8:00 ` [Linux-ia64] Re: 64 Bits DMA Addresses for Alloc Consistent Interfaces Jeremy Higdon
2003-05-16 17:36 ` [Linux-ia64] Re: 64 Bits DMA Addresses for Alloc Consistent James Bottomley
2003-05-16 17:59 ` [Linux-ia64] Re: 64 Bits DMA Addresses for Alloc Consistent Interfaces Grant Grundler
2003-05-16 18:13 ` [Linux-ia64] Re: 64 Bits DMA Addresses for Alloc Consistent James Bottomley
2003-05-16 18:18 ` [Linux-ia64] Re: 64 Bits DMA Addresses for Alloc Consistent Interfaces Russell King
2003-05-16 18:23 ` Grant Grundler
2003-05-16 18:29 ` [Linux-ia64] Re: 64 Bits DMA Addresses for Alloc Consistent James Bottomley
2003-05-16 21:02 ` [Linux-ia64] Re: 64 Bits DMA Addresses for Alloc Consistent Interfaces Jes Sorensen
2003-05-16 21:06 ` [Linux-ia64] Re: 64 Bits DMA Addresses for Alloc Consistent David S. Miller
2003-05-16 22:39 ` [Linux-ia64] Re: 64 Bits DMA Addresses for Alloc Consistent Interfaces Jeremy Higdon
2003-05-16 23:40 ` Jeremy Higdon
2003-05-16 23:53 ` [Linux-ia64] Re: 64 Bits DMA Addresses for Alloc Consistent David S. Miller
2003-05-17 4:26 ` [Linux-ia64] Re: 64 Bits DMA Addresses for Alloc Consistent Interfaces Grant Grundler
2003-05-17 4:34 ` [Linux-ia64] Re: 64 Bits DMA Addresses for Alloc Consistent David S. Miller
2003-05-17 16:44 ` [Linux-ia64] Re: 64 Bits DMA Addresses for Alloc Consistent Interfaces Jes Sorensen
2003-05-17 17:06 ` [Linux-ia64] Re: 64 Bits DMA Addresses for Alloc Consistent Colin Ngam
2003-05-17 18:36 ` James Bottomley
2003-05-17 21:09 ` [Linux-ia64] Re: 64 Bits DMA Addresses for Alloc Consistent Interfaces Russell King
2003-05-17 22:17 ` [Linux-ia64] Re: 64 Bits DMA Addresses for Alloc Consistent David S. Miller
2003-05-18 15:53 ` James Bottomley
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