From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
To: linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Linux-ia64] Re: 64 Bits DMA Addresses for Alloc Consistent
Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 02:05:12 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <marc-linux-ia64-105590723705884@msgid-missing> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <marc-linux-ia64-105590723705823@msgid-missing>
On Thu, 2003-05-15 at 18:39, David S. Miller wrote:
> My main point is that device attributes belong IN THE DEVICE
> not in some umpteenth new parameter to the DMA interfaces.
>
> Just put consistent_dma_mask into the device struct next to
> the existing dma_mask, voila problem solved.
>
> I have two major problems with the generic DMA interfaces
> and how they are being handled in general:
>
> 1) Their use is entirely inappropriate in unary-bus devices.
> There is no way someone can justify some PCI driver continually
> asking itself whether it is a PCI device or not on each DMA
> API call.
Where's that in the API? The PA-RISC implementation copes with about
four different buses and nowhere does it have a switch trying to
ascertain which bus it's talking about (it uses the dev->platform_data
field to cache the relevant bus attributes).
> 2) Additions to the parameters in the interfaces is not given
> enough thought. Each new parameter you add is a discrete failure
> of the API. It was built to be simple, and new parameters do
> nothing but add complexity.
>
> I cannot even fathom that someone would suggest to pass device
> attributes into the DMA interfaces. That is just garbage and
> unnecessary bloat.
You mean like xadding gfp flags to the allocator?
> Finally, I see nobody tackling the real hard bugs we have in the DMA
> API. These should be fixed first before adding random DMA behaviorial
> attributes. For example, pci_dma_sync_*() sucks because it only syncs
> in one direction, device to cpu, there is nothing available to sync
> things back from cpu-->device. This prevents MIPS from using the
> devices that need to do syncs without unmaps (eepro100 is but one
> example, USB host controller drivers want this too).
OK, I don't get this yet, doesn't DMA_TO_DEVICE do what you want? what
am I missing?
James
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-05-16 2:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-05-15 14:44 [Linux-ia64] Re: 64 Bits DMA Addresses for Alloc Consistent Interfaces Colin Ngam
2003-05-15 14:44 ` James Bottomley
2003-05-15 15:05 ` Colin Ngam
2003-05-15 15:06 ` David Mosberger
2003-05-15 15:12 ` James Bottomley
2003-05-15 15:47 ` David Mosberger
2003-05-15 15:48 ` David Mosberger
2003-05-15 15:48 ` Colin Ngam
2003-05-15 15:50 ` Colin Ngam
2003-05-15 19:06 ` Grant Grundler
2003-05-15 19:14 ` David Mosberger
2003-05-15 19:16 ` Grant Grundler
2003-05-15 19:29 ` Grant Grundler
2003-05-15 20:07 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-15 20:15 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-15 20:19 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-15 20:24 ` Jesse Barnes
2003-05-15 21:17 ` Grant Grundler
2003-05-15 21:29 ` Matthew Wilcox
2003-05-15 22:14 ` Colin Ngam
2003-05-15 22:44 ` Colin Ngam
2003-05-15 22:47 ` James Bottomley
2003-05-15 23:24 ` James Bottomley
2003-05-15 23:25 ` Colin Ngam
2003-05-15 23:27 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-15 23:32 ` Colin Ngam
2003-05-15 23:39 ` [Linux-ia64] Re: 64 Bits DMA Addresses for Alloc Consistent David S. Miller
2003-05-15 23:40 ` [Linux-ia64] Re: 64 Bits DMA Addresses for Alloc Consistent Interfaces Colin Ngam
2003-05-15 23:40 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-15 23:41 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-15 23:42 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-15 23:45 ` Colin Ngam
2003-05-15 23:46 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-15 23:51 ` Colin Ngam
2003-05-15 23:53 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-15 23:57 ` Colin Ngam
2003-05-16 0:03 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-16 0:06 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-16 0:11 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-16 0:17 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-16 0:29 ` Jesse Barnes
2003-05-16 0:31 ` James Bottomley
2003-05-16 0:31 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-16 0:32 ` Colin Ngam
2003-05-16 0:32 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-16 0:36 ` Colin Ngam
2003-05-16 0:37 ` Jesse Barnes
2003-05-16 0:48 ` Colin Ngam
2003-05-16 0:59 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-16 1:20 ` Grant Grundler
2003-05-16 1:23 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-16 1:51 ` Grant Grundler
2003-05-16 1:59 ` Colin Ngam
2003-05-16 2:05 ` James Bottomley [this message]
2003-05-16 2:08 ` [Linux-ia64] Re: 64 Bits DMA Addresses for Alloc Consistent David S. Miller
2003-05-16 2:26 ` James Bottomley
2003-05-16 2:32 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-16 6:47 ` [Linux-ia64] Re: 64 Bits DMA Addresses for Alloc Consistent Interfaces Jeremy Higdon
2003-05-16 6:55 ` David S. Miller
2003-05-16 7:15 ` Jeremy Higdon
2003-05-16 7:35 ` Jeremy Higdon
2003-05-16 7:48 ` Jeremy Higdon
2003-05-16 7:53 ` [Linux-ia64] Re: 64 Bits DMA Addresses for Alloc Consistent David S. Miller
2003-05-16 8:00 ` [Linux-ia64] Re: 64 Bits DMA Addresses for Alloc Consistent Interfaces Jeremy Higdon
2003-05-16 17:36 ` [Linux-ia64] Re: 64 Bits DMA Addresses for Alloc Consistent James Bottomley
2003-05-16 17:59 ` [Linux-ia64] Re: 64 Bits DMA Addresses for Alloc Consistent Interfaces Grant Grundler
2003-05-16 18:13 ` [Linux-ia64] Re: 64 Bits DMA Addresses for Alloc Consistent James Bottomley
2003-05-16 18:18 ` [Linux-ia64] Re: 64 Bits DMA Addresses for Alloc Consistent Interfaces Russell King
2003-05-16 18:23 ` Grant Grundler
2003-05-16 18:29 ` [Linux-ia64] Re: 64 Bits DMA Addresses for Alloc Consistent James Bottomley
2003-05-16 21:02 ` [Linux-ia64] Re: 64 Bits DMA Addresses for Alloc Consistent Interfaces Jes Sorensen
2003-05-16 21:06 ` [Linux-ia64] Re: 64 Bits DMA Addresses for Alloc Consistent David S. Miller
2003-05-16 22:39 ` [Linux-ia64] Re: 64 Bits DMA Addresses for Alloc Consistent Interfaces Jeremy Higdon
2003-05-16 23:40 ` Jeremy Higdon
2003-05-16 23:53 ` [Linux-ia64] Re: 64 Bits DMA Addresses for Alloc Consistent David S. Miller
2003-05-17 4:26 ` [Linux-ia64] Re: 64 Bits DMA Addresses for Alloc Consistent Interfaces Grant Grundler
2003-05-17 4:34 ` [Linux-ia64] Re: 64 Bits DMA Addresses for Alloc Consistent David S. Miller
2003-05-17 16:44 ` [Linux-ia64] Re: 64 Bits DMA Addresses for Alloc Consistent Interfaces Jes Sorensen
2003-05-17 17:06 ` [Linux-ia64] Re: 64 Bits DMA Addresses for Alloc Consistent Colin Ngam
2003-05-17 18:36 ` James Bottomley
2003-05-17 21:09 ` [Linux-ia64] Re: 64 Bits DMA Addresses for Alloc Consistent Interfaces Russell King
2003-05-17 22:17 ` [Linux-ia64] Re: 64 Bits DMA Addresses for Alloc Consistent David S. Miller
2003-05-18 15:53 ` James Bottomley
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