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From: Hubertus Franke <frankeh@watson.ibm.com>
To: linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Lse-tech] Re: CPUSET Proposal
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 13:11:00 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <marc-linux-ia64-106449584031033@msgid-missing> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <marc-linux-ia64-106444308519469@msgid-missing>

Paul Jackson wrote:

>>This sounds like it has progressively more commonality with CKRM; the
>>notion is of a workclass, not of a purely cpu-oriented notion.
>>    
>>
>
>I _knew_ I shouldn't have thrown in that paragraph that began "There are
>also some resource management capabilities, ...".
>
>There are two aspects to CKRM - a common classification of service levels,
>and hooks in each scheduler of resources to respect those levels.
>
>  
>
That is correct (assuming slight modification of the schedulers 
qualifies as a hook).

>These cpusets, either as proposed, or possible fancier forms that also
>manage memory, do not replace, cannot be replaced by, and do not compete
>with CKRM.  Rather they cooperate with CKRM, and represent one more
>place, along side network drivers, schedulers and memory allocators,
>that eventually will want to respect CKRM service levels.
>
>  
>
Yes, to my understanding of cpusets (and I haven't looked into it with 
great detail) its a
virtualization layer above physical binding. One really doesn't care to 
which CPU a process is
bound as long as it is bound to one. One might care that tasks are 
constraint to a particular
number of tasks and not beyond, thus leading to the partitioning 
capabilities.
So I agree here with Paul that it addresses more a physical separation 
of processes, or say
partitioning of machine which CKRM is targeted towards resource 
utilization within a class.
Just like cpu_affinity, CKRM could tolerate cpusets.

>The point of _this_ subthread was to consider whether this could more or
>less entirely be done in user space.  The two aspects even of Simon's
>current proposal that I don't see can be done in user space are the
>migration, and the permission model.
>
>  
>

-- Hubertus Franke     ( CKRM team )


  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-09-25 13:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-09-24 22:26 [Lse-tech] Re: CPUSET Proposal Hanna Linder
2003-09-25  5:39 ` Paul Jackson
2003-09-25  5:48 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-09-25  6:09 ` Paul Jackson
2003-09-25  6:23 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-09-25  6:38 ` Paul Jackson
2003-09-25  6:44 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-09-25  6:51 ` Paul Jackson
2003-09-25  6:59 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-09-25  7:11 ` Paul Jackson
2003-09-25 13:11 ` Hubertus Franke [this message]
2003-09-25 13:19 ` Hubertus Franke
2003-09-25 13:21 ` Hubertus Franke
2003-09-25 13:26 ` Simon Derr
2003-09-25 16:50 ` Dave Hansen
2003-09-25 18:49 ` Luck, Tony
2003-09-25 20:28 ` Yu, Fenghua
2003-09-26  7:17 ` Sylvain Jeaugey
2003-09-26  7:47 ` Sylvain Jeaugey
2003-09-26 12:57 ` Hubertus Franke
2003-09-26 13:29 ` Hubertus Franke

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